Sons grandfather passed away

dawnyp72

I know. It says on rightmove and on auction website that it was sold 21/09/2017. Maybe that was when it was completed but it’s definitly changed on land registry.

RADDERS

If the house has been sold then it sounds like probate has been granted to someone, you need to check the probate records and get a copy of the will.

You may find that everything was done correctly and he left a will and his estate to others and not your sons.

Tigsteroonie

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

PasturesNew

dawnyp72 wrote: »

Surely they would check birth and death records (or would they?)

If you "know nothing" and are trying to find out, then you'd find his siblings first. They should know/say that he had son/s.

The trouble is, they don't check birth records etc because that's very long-winded and expensive to do .... and "random children could theoretically have been born anywhere at any time - and registered with any random mother's surname". They start by finding family that are easily traceable and asking them questions.

Somebody would need a vested interest in finding you/children...

I'd expect that any professional doing searches would have found you - but if it's in the hands of his siblings then it's possible they hadn't even thought about son/s being the sole beneficiaries.... they might just assume "it's theirs", or they might be trying to cut out the lads.

In short - there is a legal obligation on anybody doing the estate to do it properly .... so no worries there.

However - when did you last see him? He could've written a will....

The only way you can solve/resolve this is to find out who is doing the probate and get in touch with them - and they will tell you what's going on. End of. It's just a nuisance it's the weekend.

getmore4less

dawnyp72 wrote: »

I know. It says on rightmove and on auction website that it was sold 21/09/2017. Maybe that was when it was completed but it’s definitly changed on land registry.

What is the date of that transfer on the land reg?

could have changed ages ago and this is a second sale.

dawnyp72

Thanks for your reply. My sons dad was an only child & my sons were the grandparents only grandchildren. They had a proper grandparent/ grandchild relationship when my boys were younger, it got less & less after I seperated from their dad.. also grandparents spent most of the year away at their holiday home/caravan
My boys both have their dads surname & he is registered as their dad on birth certificates.
It is quite possible that he left a will.. probably sorted out by his late wife as he didn’t deal with any of the finances but I would be very surprised if my boys hadn’t been included in it. Thanks again

Margot123

getmore4less wrote: »

What is the date of that transfer on the land reg?

could have changed ages ago and this is a second sale.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Wonder if the title can be traced back further? There was nothing to stop someone with Power of Attorney registering it in their own name. Does seem a very quick turn around on the Land Register though, if it was only sold a short while ago.

seashore22

Deleted because I'm on my first cup of tea and misread "late wife".

dawnyp72

Does ‘power of attorney’ mean the person who was dealing with his estate? and if so would they be allowed to transfer the house to themselves? ( sorry if I sound naive, this is not something I have dealt with before)
I think I can go back further but it costs more to check the records)

Yorkshireman99

POAs cease upon death. It is possible, but unlikely that an attorney could sell the house while the owner was still alive but not to transfer it to themselves.