Which car is better value?

BMTH

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

It's not that so much as the fact that it's had fail after fail, advisory after advisory.


It's not been looked after - with the 1.5dCI that's a recipe for disaster.

Cheers man, think you've made my mind up for me.

And I honestly have looked around my area for other cars, but for my budget and what these car offer they seem good value for money.

VW's i'm looking a little older and a massive amount of miles more.
Toyota's I'm not so much a fan of the looks and again in my area I'm limited to small models like Aygo's. Was looking at something a little more nippy.
Hyundai I used to own a i20 11 plate which I loved but again I'm looking at an older model for more money.

I don't get why people are so set on always buying Japanese like it's an invincible car.

BeenThroughItAll

BMTH wrote: »

Cheers man, think you've made my mind up for me.

And I honestly have looked around my area for other cars, but for my budget and what these car offer they seem good value for money.

VW's i'm looking a little older and a massive amount of miles more.
Toyota's I'm not so much a fan of the looks and again in my area I'm limited to small models like Aygo's. Was looking at something a little more nippy.
Hyundai I used to own a i20 11 plate which I loved but again I'm looking at an older model for more money.

I don't get why people are so set on always buying Japanese like it's an invincible car.

It's not that they're invincible. They're just less !!!! than Renaults in general. My judgement may have been clouded, but of the many tens of cars I've owned, the worst have all been Renaults. You'd think I'd have learned after the first three or four, but no... I still gave them one last chance in 2015 and bought a brand new one. Here's a little pie-chart of my ownership experience:

BMTH

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

It's not that they're invincible. They're just less !!!! than Renaults in general. My judgement may have been clouded, but of the many tens of cars I've owned, the worst have all been Renaults. You'd think I'd have learned after the first three or four, but no... I still gave them one last chance in 2015 and bought a brand new one. Here's a little pie-chart of my ownership experience:

Sounds like you've owned your fair share of cars mate!

What would you recommend for my budget (£2000-2500) and how many miles on said car should I expect on it?

BeenThroughItAll

BMTH wrote: »

Sounds like you've owned your fair share of cars mate!

What would you recommend for my budget (£2000-2500) and how many miles on said car should I expect on it?

I tried counting them up about a year ago. Gave up in the mid 90s as I couldn't remember them all.


Depends what you're doing with the car and what you want. In the last five or six years I've almost never spent more than 2K or so, because I know I'll get bored quickly, and have had everything from BMW 7 series' to Citroen C2s and everything in between... I'm currently trundling around in a 2.2CDTi Honda Accord Tourer, which I bought in February with 123K on it. 134K on it now and going strong.


You've not told us what your usage is like, so it's damned hard to say what might suit.

BMTH

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

I tried counting them up about a year ago. Gave up in the mid 90s as I couldn't remember them all.


Depends what you're doing with the car and what you want. In the last five or six years I've almost never spent more than 2K or so, because I know I'll get bored quickly, and have had everything from BMW 7 series' to Citroen C2s and everything in between... I'm currently trundling around in a 2.2CDTi Honda Accord Tourer, which I bought in February with 123K on it. 134K on it now and going strong.


You've not told us what your usage is like, so it's damned hard to say what might suit.

About 5000 miles per year, varied but not much motorway driving; perhaps a few long trips per year. No family so nothing too big.

Shaka_Zulu

Copart always my first port of call and "if" I was in the market this would be the one for me. Would be looking to pick that up for:-

Value of middle of the road price of undamaged model - 35% - cost of rear door and two light clusters - cost of fitting and spraying - contingency (variable on gut feel)

So hopefully £600-£700ish

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/42301657

BeenThroughItAll

BMTH wrote: »

About 5000 miles per year, varied but not much motorway driving; perhaps a few long trips per year. No family so nothing too big.

If you're only doing 5K a year, why not buy something a bit nicer and less... shopping-boxy.


At that annual mileage and with mostly short trips, I'd want something with a petrol engine and wouldn't worry much about MPG or tax (5K at 30MPG - £850, 5K at 50MPG - £550).


Also, don't get hung up on mileage. As illustrated by that red Clio, a low mileage car may often be poorly looked after.


For your money, you could have a nice Suzuki Swift. That'd probably be my choice if I wanted a 'not too big' car.


Personally, though, with your money and that usage profile, I'd buy something more interesting like an MX-5, or as I had last year, a BMW 330Ci. For me, life's too short to drive a Clio.

System

sevenhills wrote: »

It only did 460 miles between 2016/17; no reason to be negative tho.

Other than seizing brake calipers especially the handbrake mechanism if it has discs at the rear, corroded brake discs, sticking clutch, bearings going rusty because they've been exposed to air, moving parts seizing up, corrosion in the engine cylinders, battery knackered because its been allowed to go flat, corrosion building up on switch contacts such as the indicator stalk from lack of use...

walwyn1978

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

It's not that so much as the fact that it's had fail after fail, advisory after advisory.


It's not been looked after - with the 1.5dCI that's a recipe for disaster.

I didn't look at the MOT history. I withdraw my vote for the red one having looked at that and agree, if forced to buy one of the two it's now the white one.

Stoke

BMTH wrote: »

Cheers man, think you've made my mind up for me.

And I honestly have looked around my area for other cars, but for my budget and what these car offer they seem good value for money.

VW's i'm looking a little older and a massive amount of miles more.
Toyota's I'm not so much a fan of the looks and again in my area I'm limited to small models like Aygo's. Was looking at something a little more nippy.
Hyundai I used to own a i20 11 plate which I loved but again I'm looking at an older model for more money.

I don't get why people are so set on always buying Japanese like it's an invincible car.

As per the post above, it's not that Japanese cars are so brilliant, it's just that French cars have a tendency to be overwhelmingly bad. It might sound a bit of a joke or jumping on the band wagon, but I speak from honesty when I say my experiences with French cars have been nothing but negative.

Perhaps the only mitigating factor is that they're cheap, but you ultimately spend more trying to achieve the reliability of a German equivalent.

French and Italian cars I tend to avoid, although Fiat's are much better than French if you ask me.... not that you did. :cool: