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Is it too late to ignore my fine after losing the IAS appeal process?

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  • KeithP
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    You do not need to use the forms they have supplied.

    You certainly have no obligation to explain to them your current household finances.
  • Umkomaas
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    Go back to them in writing and demand every bit of information to which you are entitled, as per the PaP.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • EddieRonald64
    EddieRonald64 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    edited 7 April 2018 at 7:52PM
    Out of curiosity, is the PPC required to present the required information/documents (proof of signage etc) in the letter before claim, if they have provided this previously at the appeal stage, via the IAS process for example?

    Kind regards
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 8 April 2018 at 12:36AM
    Well no law sets it out like that, as such, but in effect yes, they are required to enclose the contract (sign) they allege was breached and the evidence that they intend to rely upon.

    Never mind if they supplied some of it months ago.

    Just editing to add what your case was all about, for everyone to see on this page:
    I explained that I thought I had paid for correct parking because there was a dodgy sign stuck on the private payment metre that stated: "tickets could be purchased at either machine" with an arrow pointing in the direction of the council-owned car park.
    Have you got photos to prove that sign & arrow? Go get them!
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  • Thanks Coupon-mad, and yes, I went back the day after I received the charge notice to take the photo. I also took a video on foot of the journey I took into the car park to show how it could be easily misinterpreted.

    We'll see if and what they come back with.
  • Quick update: after sending my response after receiving a letter before claim from VCS, I've just received a letter titled 'intention to start court proceedings'. They're saying that in accordance to the pre action protocol, clause 8.2, they're giving me 14 days notice of their intention to start court proceedings. So they've acknowledged that I've responded, but we haven't 'reached an agreement'.

    A little perplexed by this, I'm going to reply simply stating again that they did not provide me with the full details that I requested.

    Out of curiosity, and this might sound stupid, but could the commencement of court proceedings affect my planned travel to the US?
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    reply in the manner you mentioned, just keep playing email or letter tennis with them

    no , it is a civil matter and will not affect any travel plans

    the only issue with being away is that it is sods law that they will issue an MCOL whilst you are away, and you may not know about it until its too late to acknowledge and put in a defence , that is the only danger by not collecting your post

    so ensure that if you are away your post is checked regularly and you are contactable
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