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Jacob Ress Mogg - next PM?

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  • System
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    edited 7 September 2017 at 7:45PM
    So what? I know Corbyn gave a few people here a bit of a fright in May but he was never going to win the election and never will.

    The thread's about whether JRM would make a decent PM. I fail to see why Corbyn is the default comparison

    Because everyone here needs to take sides on things and argue and defend their "team" no matter if it makes sense or not. I'm assuming no one here agrees with his views on same sex marriage and abortion, but people seem to feel he needs protecting from the nasty internet by banging on about someone else.

    Corbyn could be an axe murderder. It doesn't change the fact that holding views like JRM's is totally backward.
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  • i don't want a pm who thinks that if i've been raped or if my pregnancy may be fatal i should still carry the baby to term. or until it kills me.

    next candidate please.
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  • Backward? his views are totally repugnant. People keep saying he's an intelligent man, how does anyone with any intelligence think it's ok to say if a child is raped by a family member they should have the baby, because morally that's the right thing to do..... He's disgusting, the sooner he disappears the better.
  • how is someone disgusting for thinking that kind of view is repugnant? it is and the fact a MAN thinks he has the right to pass judgement on a woman in that situation is the disgusting thing.
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  • Matt_L
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    how is someone disgusting for thinking that kind of view is repugnant? it is and the fact a MAN thinks he has the right to pass judgement on a woman in that situation is the disgusting thing.

    Who has he passed judgement on? Why is it that when people don't share your views they become, "disgusting"..

    I don't share his views but i accept that in a free democratic society there can be many different views. He made it very clear that it was only a view and would never dream of forcing anyone to do anything.
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."
  • telling a woman you believe she should carry a baby that was the product of rape is disgusting to me. if he's entitled to his opinion on something that has nothing to do with him, so am i.
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  • Matt_L
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    telling a woman you believe she should carry a baby that was the product of rape is disgusting to me. if he's entitled to his opinion on something that has nothing to do with him, so am i.

    Which women has he told that??
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."
  • Matt_L wrote: »
    Which women has he told that??

    You're being pedantic. The point is, saying it's immoral to have a termination after being raped by a family member is an abhorrent thing to say. As if victims or rape and incest aren't going through enough as it is. To then cast judgement on them is sickening.
  • Matt_L
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    You're being pedantic. The point is, saying it's immoral to have a termination after being raped by a family member is an abhorrent thing to say. As if victims or rape and incest aren't going through enough as it is. To then cast judgement on them is sickening.

    Absolutely, couldn't agree more but that isn't what he's doing, its a personal view, nothing more...
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."
  • dunstonh
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    Backward? his views are totally repugnant. People keep saying he's an intelligent man, how does anyone with any intelligence think it's ok to say if a child is raped by a family member they should have the baby, because morally that's the right thing to do..... He's disgusting, the sooner he disappears the better.

    So you are intolerant of those with the Catholic faith? What are you views on Muslims and Jews? Muslims regard abortion as wrong unless it puts the mothers life at risk. Strict Judaism permits abortion only in cases where continuing the pregnancy would put the mother's life in serious danger. In respect of Rape or Incest, abortion in these cases would only be permitted if continuing the pregnancy would cause the mother sufficient distress to endanger her health.

    So, you find Catholics, Jews and Muslims totally repugnant and lacking intelligence. Do you know that that level of intolerance makes you?

    I disagree with his views but what he says is not exactly unreasonable in respect of abortion. It is a question of faith and opinion as to when life actually begins. The law currently decides when it is right to terminate the child. Every country has a different length of time to which they feel is right. So, what is legal in one country could be murder in another.

    As I said, I disagree with his views but I respect his right to have those views. He said himself that his views are different and that he wouldn't impose them on others.
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