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Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

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  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    Nonsense - Youtube et al are the main source of current affairs for generation Z - you will see the vast bulk of hissy fit shouting and safe spacing is coming from the left

    Youtube operates on algorithms which look at what you watch and feed you more of that so as to keep you on their site watching their videos (and averts) as long as possible. So when you look at multiple videos of a lefties having hissy fits it sees that that is the type of videos you like to watch so it just brings forward from its 10+ billion video list more of the same.

    I feel it is one of the lessor parts of youTube it is a confirmation bias reinforcement tool

    I would say its likely the left wing students are louder and more shouty as that is seen as their acceptable culture. Im not sure I would say half the population in the uk who vote left of center are shouty ignorant kids.
  • System
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    GreatApe wrote: »
    Youtube operates on algorithms which look at what you watch and feed you more of that so as to keep you on their site watching their videos (and averts) as long as possible. So when you look at multiple videos of a lefties having hissy fits it sees that that is the type of videos you like to watch so it just brings forward from its 10+ billion video list more of the same.

    I feel it is one of the lessor parts of youTube it is a confirmation bias reinforcement tool

    It's an AI version of a newspaper. At a newspaper a human has to gauge what it is their readers want to read and supply it otherwise they'll find another one to feed their bias.
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  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    It's an AI version of a newspaper. At a newspaper a human has to gauge what it is their readers want to read and supply it otherwise they'll find another one to feed their bias.

    Not really, a newspaper is the same for its millions of readers while you tube is customized for each viewer and their personal biases and habits
  • System
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    GreatApe wrote: »
    Not really, a newspaper is the same for its millions of readers while you tube is customized for each viewer and their personal biases and habits

    Newspapers personalise their content according to their readers biases.

    If you think Jeremy Corbyn is great you won't be buying The Telegraph because it's full of stories about how he's an idiot and how it's Jacob Rees-Mogg that's great. People don't choose newspapers to have their biases tested.

    Express readers like to read stories about aliens. It's a unique selling point. If I want to read about aliens, bad/ good weather that never arrives and my house increasing in value there's only one place to go. I wouldn't even look at any other newspapers.

    Using algorithms I don't even have to have those other newspapers in my peripheral vision.

    Take someone's bank statement and youtube history and you'll know as much about them as they do.
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  • Herzlos
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    GreatApe wrote: »
    Not really, a newspaper is the same for its millions of readers while you tube is customized for each viewer and their personal biases and habits

    Same concept, papers print what their audience want to read. Youtube (and facebook, and google, etc) show the content they think their audience want to see. The only difference is the paper is an aggregate of 100,000 people, whilst the online stuff can be narrowed down to 1.

    Just search for and watch a random out of character video on youtube and see what it does to your recommended and next video links.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    edited 4 October 2017 at 4:27PM
    Mayonnise just a suggestion but you could use the advance editing function to change this thread title to "Debate a second brexit referendum" or whatever you want.

    Of course I csn't promise that the mods won't come along and merge all the brexit threads.

    Honestly, I'm not trying to annoy you. I'm sure we can find a way to coexist in harmony.

    Just a thought.
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,183 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Here's what generation Z are seeing on social media - and why 'progressives' are in a loosing battle - shouting instead of debating;


    This is merely 1 example of vast numbers of vids generation Z are consuming showing the childish intolerance of the left;

    Here you YET again see the left unable to debate and resorting to infantile shouty hysterics. The fun begins after 21 mins in the debate here - and culminates with the infantile's physically blocking the speaker until they are thrown out. 24 MINUTES THE SNOWFLAKES START SHOUTING 'SHAME' IN EARNEST


    Note the STUDENT crowd reaction when they witness lefty intolerance / fascism in the raw.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx1IyxUe3Qc&t=1828s

    Someone called Ben Shapiro being heckled by students in Wisconsin.

    You search really hard to find things to be offended by don't you?
  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    GreatApe wrote: »
    The negative aspects of air pollution are massively overstated

    Cooking creates more air pollution right inside your house than any diesel car is impact you driven a road or two away. This is yet magnitudes more true in developing countries which use wood/coal/dung to cook food.

    So yes Diesel vehicles should not be scrapped early if they have economic value to people or businesses.
    Diesel engines don't burn the fuel they implode it under pressure. The soot comprises nanoparticles that the human body has not evolved protection against, they get through the lung and into bloodstream. Filter cartridges and burning off this soot into a black plume is what we call current clean technology.

    Cooking by contrast burns oil and the smoke is something that humans have at least co-evolved with since huts had a hole in the roof as a crude chimney. Nowadays we have the luxury of fan assisted cooker hoods.
  • CKhalvashi
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    setmefree2 wrote: »

    There are 2 in place already within the UK for visiting musicians.

    For studio work there's the 'General visitor' visa, and for live work there's the 'Permitted paid engagement' visa. The first is good for 6 months, the second is good for 30 days.

    What we need (as a business) is a single Schengen equivalent of the above, of which there isn't one. The only viable option at this is to set up a second company on the mainland and run EU operations from there, which won't be too much of a problem as the UK/Ireland and EU bits are administered separately at the moment.

    There is a general feeling that the costs of touring the EU for British musicians will be extremely expensive, with carnets and deposits required for each country, compared to the UK where the documentation is easily less than £100 per person. If you're selling 1000 tickets per event at €50 each it's not an issue at all, where if you're selling 100 tickets at €10-15 each it makes the entire system unworkable.
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