Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

setmefree2

If I am banned please lobby the mods on my behalf and explain to them what's gone on here.

setmefree2

mayonnaise wrote: »

Anyway, to each their own. If you guys want pages and pages of links, knock yourselves out. Enjoy.

Thank you.

Please put me on ignore.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

I get far more from these links than I do endless doom mongering from the terrified crowd endlessly stating we are too silly and weak to thrive as independent nation

I'm sure you'd get a lot more from them if he spent a few seconds commenting on the links too, whether it's to summarize them, hint at the quality, express an opinion. This is a discussion thread and not a googling competition, after all.

setmefree2

If you don't like my posts please put me on ignore. I won't be offended. I'm not out to annoy anybody. I just want to discuss Brexit facts.

mayonnaise

setmefree2 wrote: »

If I am banned please lobby the mods on my behalf and explain to them what's gone on here.

No problem buddy, I'll do that for you.

System

setmefree2 wrote: »

If you don't like my posts please put me on ignore. I won't be offended. I'm not out to annoy anybody. I just want to discuss Brexit facts.

Good to see you so engaged.

Your facts aren't facts BTW. They're a step or two away from the facts and are usually someone's interpretation of the facts with a narrative applied.

I'm more interested in your opinion than a newsdump. We can all use google. I'm interested in Jock's too and sorry to see he's been PPR'ed.

setmefree2

OK - I'm going to start a new thread as this one might well get deleted if there has been a ton of spam reported on it.

See this thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5680765

Hi everyone!

Firstly a huge thanks to zippychick for flagging the disappearing threads up to us

Secondly, don't worry, there isn't a technical reason for these long running threads being removed.

Simply put, the "spam button" was clicked on them enough times that they were automatically deleted.

In the two instances we're aware of we believe this was just down to forum members accidentally clicking the button. These things do happen sadly.

As zippychick explained, we very sadly can't reinstate the threads but it's best to look on the bright side - often a shiny brand new thread can give us a fresh start and help our motivation.

Thanks for your patience with this everyone, it really is appreciated.

MSE Andrea

CKhalvashi

mayonnaise wrote: »

If I want links I'll install and configure a news reader app on my phone. Don't need to be spoon fed links, thanks very much.

Anyway, to each their own. If you guys want pages and pages of links, knock yourselves out. Enjoy.

If you could sort my iPad to stop giving me updates on what the Telegraph are doing, I'd be most grateful

Actually, I read from a spectrum of sources, some of which I know will give me views I don't agree with, as it means that I can keep updated with a range of views on a range of subjects.

Oh, and re Conrad mentioning how everyone sitting on the left politically requires 'safe spaces'. I was 2 years ago straight down the centre politically. I've moved a little to the left in those 2 years, and I don't require 'safe spaces' at all, nor do I (or the majority of those I know) freak out the minute someone says something I don't want to hear.

Not attempting to tar everyone with the same brush would be a nice thing, especially looking at the Brexiteer snowflakes that suddenly appear proclaiming their love for some bloke called Nigel (anyone know who he is? I've never heard of him) at the hint of their precious Brexit being put under the tiniest bit of scrutiny. I appreciate that most here aren't like that, however there are one or two who definitely seem (on the opposite side to me) that they are.

Like Conrad, I'd like to move forward with constructive debate, which doesn't necessarily mean I agree with the direction the country is heading, more that I want it to work for you even though I likely won't be here.

System

setmefree2 wrote: »

Britain CAN start EU trade talks by end of the year, European officials tell Theresa May

EUROPEAN Union bosses have informed Theresa May that Brexit talks can resume in time for Christmas.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/861540/Britain-Brexit-start-EU-trade-talks-by-end-of-the-year-European-officials-Theresa-May

This is looking like fake news. No decision has been made yet as far as I can tell.

GreatApe

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Now I've got the 2 big things out the way for the day and before I get on with something else, something has come up that I'd like opinions on. This is in a small way related to Brexit and future trade, while largely being related to wider issues.

In the course of looking at something else this morning, I stumbled upon someone saying about older diesel cars from Europe ending up in developing countries and their concern for it. I can't find the comment/article in my browsing history now to give a link.

My personal belief is that it would help the economic development of those countries, with potentially cheap (and largely unwanted) older vehicles being readily available for use outside the EU. This is especially apparent in the commercial vehicle sector where the driving down of prices for pre-2002ish vehicles would also help some people closer to home get their foot on the ladder. I'm talking stuff that is reasonably worth no more than about £1500 now, and at £500 would enable businesses to be started that at the current £1500 price point wouldn't be attainable.

There is concern from a group however (and I don't know how big this group is) for the environmental impacts that this may have on these countries.

Now, I do care about the environment however I don't see the point in throwing perfectly good used vehicles away when they could be put to effective use elsewhere just because they're not running on the newest or most efficient technology.

So, is the general view here that the environmental impacts of such a scheme would be too big, or that it would help other countries be in a better position to trade with us in the long run? Remember that this could create a new market for British parts suppliers (as a good number of older vans on the roads were built in the UK) in answering this.

I'm tipping towards the economic advantages for third countries, but would like your thoughts.

The negative aspects of air pollution are massively overstated

Cooking creates more air pollution right inside your house than any diesel car is impact you driven a road or two away. This is yet magnitudes more true in developing countries which use wood/coal/dung to cook food.

So yes Diesel vehicles should not be scrapped early if they have economic value to people or businesses.