Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

I've given you some figures Jock so we don't need to rely wholly on anecdotal data and your vast experience of...well...everything.

If average churn in the civil service is 9.1% and it's c20% in DExEU then I think it's possible for us to draw some conclusions from that especially when we know a number of senior staff have been shed amid reports that David Davis is a nightmare to work for.

This is a chap for who spending a night in Brussels during the most important negotiations for the UK since WWII represents a big deal.

BTW, it was another poster asking for anecdotal input; gfplux FYI.

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From your "journo's preaching", asking why journalists work is "just so valuable" and the "rag" you mention above, here you decide you want to agree with these same journalists that you so deride and say you "don't believe that" from an official source.

If a desire to be taken seriously really is what is sought, perhaps rather than continue in circles you could just save the whole thread the time and effort of your apparent obstinacy and contradict yourself in your first response?

You have no inside information as to the machinations of DExEU.
You do not know the length of assignments offered to those working in DExEU.
Without these, your assertions (and those of the reporting media which strangely in this instance you decide you agree with) are worthless.
Again, and for the last time, the official stance is:

“The majority moved on to other government departments because their loan, contract or fast stream rotation ended,” the department said. “Given the large majority of these changes were the result of normal civil service rotation or the end of defined loan periods, these roles were quickly filled.”

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A_Medium_Size_Jock

Politico is suggesting that Eurocrats are so concerned about Brexit that they are worried about a "charm offensive":

While the fourth round of Brexit talks is ongoing in Brussels, Britain has launched a diplomatic “charm offensive” across several EU countries.
While the move is officially aimed at explaining Theresa’s May speech in Florence last week — and, in Liam Fox’s case, promoting trade — diplomats in Brussels and in several EU capitals expressed concern that the Brits are seeking to bypass the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier and Brussels, and win backing from nation states.

http://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-negotiation-uk-embarks-on-diplomacy-tour-of-europe/

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

You have no inside information as to the machinations of DExEU.
You do not know the length of assignments offered to those working in DExEU.
Without these, your assertions (and those of the reporting media which strangely in this instance you decide you agree with) are worthless.

I have the same inside information and knowledge of the contract length as you - i.e. none. We're discussing something for which full facts aren't available - if you're above such discussion/ speculation then don't get into the discussion - simple. Your multiple windy posts pointing out all facts aren't available are a statement of the bleeding obvious.

As someone who tests google to the limits I'm surprised you're willing, in the absence of all the facts, to take the word of Mr. Department Spokesman at face value. Funny how it's important to [STRIKE]google/[/STRIKE] read widely sometimes but allow yourself to be spoon-fed when it suits.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Macron's dreams:
"Emmanuel Macron calls for EU army and shared defence budget"

“Europe as we know it is too weak, too slow and too inefficient.

Mr Macron called for the creation of an EU defence force by 2020 that would give the bloc “autonomous capacity for action” and proposed creating an European security training academy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-emmanuel-macron-eu-army-joint-defence-budget-french-president-nato-britain-brexit-russia-a7968346.html

Typical EU; refuse to find the UN adequately but start your own "defence force" (read: army).

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Today comes news of another EU fine for collusion on pricing:

EU regulators fine Scania 880 million euros for truckmakers cartel

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-scania-cartel/eu-regulators-fine-scania-880-million-euros-for-truckmakers-cartel-idUKKCN1C2107?il=0

Eric_the_half_a_bee

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Today comes news of another EU fine for collusion on pricing:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-scania-cartel/eu-regulators-fine-scania-880-million-euros-for-truckmakers-cartel-idUKKCN1C2107?il=0

Hang on.

The decision of the US courts to impose sanctions on Bombardier for anti-competitive behaviour is apparently evidence that the US is not to be trusted on trade, and that Brexit is bad.

So now the EU courts have imposed sanctions on Scania for anti-competitive behaviour, that must mean that the EU is not to be trusted on trade, and that Brexit is good?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Another reason why London is unlikely to lose it's position as the world's financial capital:
"London crowned top global city despite Brexit challenges"

London has topped the list on a new index that claims to be the most comprehensive international city ranking yet, with research showing the capital is in the best possible shape to meet the challenges of Brexit.

Below London were New York, Tokyo, Paris, Singapore, Hong Kong and Seoul.
"London is a magnet for talent, capital and businesses because of its scale, diverse economic base, global visibility, extensive infrastructure and appetite for tech innovation," said Jeremy Kelly, director in global research at JLL.

http://www.cityam.com/272763/london-crowned-top-global-city-despite-brexit-challenges

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Eric_the_half_a_bee wrote: »

Hang on.

The decision of the US courts to impose sanctions on Bombardier for anti-competitive behaviour is apparently evidence that the US is not to be trusted on trade, and that Brexit is bad.

So now the EU courts have imposed sanctions on Scania for anti-competitive behaviour, that must mean that the EU is not to be trusted on trade, and that Brexit is good?

Note too that Scania are part of the VW group.

cogito

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Macron's dreams:
"Emmanuel Macron calls for EU army and shared defence budget"




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-emmanuel-macron-eu-army-joint-defence-budget-french-president-nato-britain-brexit-russia-a7968346.html

Typical EU; refuse to find the UN adequately but start your own "defence force" (read: army).

Macron spent more than an hour and a half wasting his breath. Merkel is going into coalition with FDP who are opposed to more integration and she will use it as a reason for stopping Macron in his tracks.

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Macron's dreams:
"Emmanuel Macron calls for EU army and shared defence budget"

Sorry. This is already on the list of leave's scary predictions of things that would happen but probably won't.

Macron may as well been talking to himself.

EU army, Turkey joining the EU, ever closer integration - the list gets longer.