Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

mayonnaise

Brexit: Majority of British people believe UK should stay in the EU

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-majority-uk-british-people-stay-in-eu-not-leave-latest-poll-theresa-may-florence-speech-tory-a7960226.html

Yes, it's 'just' a poll.
Yes, I know the non-binding advisory referendum was last year.

Just saying public opinion is fickle and is shifting.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

The view from Canada.

What a shambles.

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4294708

I think maybe you meant " A view from Canada."
Canadians no more all think alike than do we in the UK or indeed anywhere else.
So here is another Canadian POV:

Those feeling anxious about the future relationship between the United Kingdom and the rest of the world could use a little predictability, and both Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and British Prime Minister Theresa May say Canada can help.

May said she has already discussed the approach with the European Union.

http://www.columbiavalleypioneer.com/news/canada-u-k-using-ceta-as-new-trade-model/
Also here: https://www.vernonmorningstar.com/news/canada-u-k-using-ceta-as-new-trade-model/


Here is what mediabiasfactcheck says about CBC:

They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbc-news-canadian-broadcasting/

I cannot see a bias check for the Black Star Group which owns the other two links; instead (if you want to) is this from Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Press

A_Medium_Size_Jock

After what some of us in these forums have been saying for a while comes this today from Mario Draghi:

Europe's youth unemployment poses risk to democracy - Draghi

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ecb-policy-draghi/europes-youth-unemployment-poses-risk-to-democracy-draghi-idUKKCN1BX0VW?il=0

mayonnaise

Michael Gove Accused Of Suppressing Report Into Whether Brexit Will Cause Food Prices To Rise

Michael Gove has been accused of suppressing figures about a possible increase in food prices after Brexit.

The government has refused to publish a Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) analysis because “premature disclosure of information could seriously mislead the public and is not in the public interest”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/michael-gove-accused-of-suppressing-secret-report-into-brexit-food-price-rises_uk_59c4cd9ce4b06ddf45f6eaa9?utm_hp_ref=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Michael Gove Accused Of Suppressing Report Into Whether Brexit Will Cause Food Prices To Rise
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/michael-gove-accused-of-suppressing-secret-report-into-brexit-food-price-rises_uk_59c4cd9ce4b06ddf45f6eaa9?utm_hp_ref=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk

Ah yes. The pertinent parts may be:

The government has refused to publish a Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) analysis because “premature disclosure of information could seriously mislead the public and is not in the public interest”.

And:

“At this early stage of the policy process, where the UK is formulating its negotiating position with the EU, a public authority needs a safe space to formulate policy effectively and to ensure the information it is preparing is timely and accurate.

In other words, it's a "work in process" - pretty much like Brexit negotiations; you can't accurately predict the future.

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

Brexit: Majority of British people believe UK should stay in the EU

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-majority-uk-british-people-stay-in-eu-not-leave-latest-poll-theresa-may-florence-speech-tory-a7960226.html

Yes, it's 'just' a poll.
Yes, I know the non-binding advisory referendum was last year.

Just saying public opinion is fickle and is shifting.

Interestingly cant find this poll on BMG's News / latest polls page.


The Independent is an utter rag, profoundly biased and only gives a 1 sided oblique view on Brexit. I wonder what the precise question was and who they polled.

posh*spice

ukcarper wrote: »

The mistake the Tories made was to call the referendum in the first place but that has been done now.

Reality Check.

If we weren't leaving we would still be seeing upwards of 350,000 people coming to the UK every year. That is enough people to populate Newcastle and still have 60,0000 people left for a small town.

So how was staying ever going to have a good outcome?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Conrad wrote: »

Interestingly cant find this poll on BMG's News / latest polls page.


The Independent is an utter rag, profoundly biased and only gives a 1 sided oblique view on Brexit. I wonder what the precise question was and who they polled.

Well they did not poll many for a start!

The BMG poll involved 1,447 individuals surveyed between 12-15 September. Results are weighted to reflect the profile of GB adults

I love it when they say "results are weighted" ......... which means they changed the result.
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/faq-items/results-weighted-mean/

posh*spice

Honey_Badger wrote: »

I'm always intrigued as to why EU freedom of movement is viewed as being so vital for UK children's future. Something over 4 million British citizens live outside the UK whilst about only a million of those live in the EU, of which quite a few are retired.

From that and my personal experience it would seem like the rest of the world outside of the EU offers a better future for British children.

Moby doesn't seem to know about work visas.

Conrad

posh*spice wrote: »

Reality Check.

If we weren't leaving we would still be seeing upwards of 350,000 people coming to the UK every year. That is enough people to populate Newcastle and still have 60,0000 people left for a small town.

So how was staying ever going to have a good outcome?

And lets not forget both Labour and Lib Dems called for a referendum well before Cameron. This was in the mid 2000's and later reversed by them both.