Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Matt_L

No deal is still better than a bad Deal, well done TM...

A_Medium_Size_Jock

CKhalvashi wrote: »

No EEA withdrawal notification, everything will be the same until 2021, I think everyone is in agreement May won't last that long.

Good news all round! :beer:

Eh?
Were we watching the same speech?

The only real difference from Lancaster House is the request for a maximum two year "implementation period"; a transition period if you will.
The Eurocrats have to agree to this first - and what do you think the chances of that are given their past performance?

It looks TBH like those Eurocrats have been wrong-footed again.
Because TM has asked for innovation and made (vague, admittedly) promises; but she has also restated that a no-deal is better than a bad deal.
So what happens when the EU continue to bluster?
Who is going to be seen as being uncompromising?

GreatApe

Moby wrote: »

I agree you don't understand. Let me explain. I live in N London and have neighbours who voted Brexit because they thought it would improve the chances of their kids finding jobs/accommodation because they are priced out of both in London. I said why don't they move up north...I may as well said why don't they go to the moon. Of course one of these kids left uni. in Southampton early because they couldn't cope with their laundry and feeding themselves. In contrast I work with young people who have come to this country from all over the world. They are working full-time and are fully independent. Saying immigrants are taking our jobs and houses and ruining the opportunities of our kids is the oldest excuse in the book and is a complete fallacy. If you raise your kids to suck at mummy's teat until they're in their thirties, it'll come back to haunt you. August bank holiday weekend my neighbour was painting his house all weekend. I asked why his two adult sons were not helping him. Apparently they were too busy watching Game Of Thrones! As for being priced out of our own capital that has more to do more with how capitalism works than anything else. Can't have it both ways...capitalism when it suits and socialist protectionism when it doesn't!

Why do people think migrants who often can not speak read or write as good as the locals take jobs from the locals? There are definitely some unemployed British people but almost all of them are unemployable.

I know two for instance, one is an alcoholic who manages to get work but is fired within a few months and the other is a drug abuser who afaik hasn't ever worked. Maybe they feel like if there were fewer foreigners they would get fantastic jobs but the reality is their situations have nothing to do with migrants.

For normal brits, migrants push Brits up the pay and work food chain

We have zero unemployment for people who are functional (ie not including people with drug/alchol/depression/mental conditions etc). That means if the migrants are gutting the fish and washing the old people and cleaning the streets then they displaced the locals who would have been doing that, not to unemployment as we have only 1% unemployment, but to higher status and higher wage work

The only part with EU migration that we could perhaps improve is deport those who commit crime, even petty crime and bar them for at least 5 years and if they do it again bar them for life. The host country should be fined £10,000 for each individual returned.

Moby

She's appealing to the EU to be our best friend, it's in everyones interest to have a good deal etc.....pathetic. Who cares if the EU is seen as uncompromising....us and so what I ask!

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

She's appealing to the EU to be our best friend, it's in everyones interest to have a good deal etc.....pathetic. Who cares if the EU is seen as uncompromising....us and so what I ask!

I'm not sure why anyone would care what you think. You clearly don't have our best interests at heart.

setmefree2

Thanks for posting Moby. It has been a real eye opener....

mayonnaise

CKhalvashi wrote: »

No EEA withdrawal notification

Interesting.

Thrugelmir

CKhalvashi wrote: »

No EEA withdrawal notification, everything will be the same until 2021, I think everyone is in agreement May won't last that long.

Good news all round! :beer:

Think that most people are now tired of Brexit. Time to think and move forwards.

mayonnaise

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Think that most people are now tired of Brexit. Time to think and move forwards.

True.
Brexit is so last year.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Interesting.

Not really.
Desperately clinging to obscure hopes more like.



Oh & BTW, leaving the EEA formally when required to do so needs only twelve months notice.