Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Conrad

ukcarper wrote: »

That's why they would benefit from a deal as we will have to impose tariffs on them. They might well be prepared to risk the trade by not giving us a deal but it will impact on them and they will lose some trade just as we will. No deal is bad for both sides you seem to be ignoring that.

At the moment the conversation is all in the abstract but when it becomes a reality that the EU is close to putting up barriers to their sales to the UK, that's when European business will suddenly take a very different view.


You know when real jobs and tax are on the line, when thousands of French wine workers suddenly are to be put at risk.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

I think the eu is evolving and will evolve much faster now that we're not holding them back. Give it a decade or 2 and the eu will be glad that we left.

Is the EU actually evolving? Whatever the poltico's might be saying. There's huge disagreement on a number of issues. With rifts that aren't going to be easily healed.

Thrugelmir

ukcarper wrote: »

Our trade deficit with EU is £70 billion, they sell to us £310 billion of goods and services. They might well be prepared to sacrifice that trade for political reasons but to say it will not impact on them is ridiculous.

Difficult to see Eire sacrificing it's agricutural exports to the UK. 43% of all production is shipped to the UK. Fall in the exchange rate has already cost Eire £785 million in lost income on UK exports. Ultimately polticians have to respond to their own electorates concerns rather than the Brussels elite.

System

ukcarper wrote: »

That's why they would benefit from a deal as we will have to impose tariffs on them. They might well be prepared to risk the trade by not giving us a deal but it will impact on them and they will lose some trade just as we will. No deal is bad for both sides you seem to be ignoring that.

They don't have to impose tariffs on our exports and we don't have to impose tariffs on theirs. Why do you think this?

It's a choice.

Conrad

ilovehouses wrote: »

They don't have to impose tariffs on our exports and we don't have to impose tariffs on theirs. Why do you think this?

It's a choice.

So if all is rosy, why do Remainers endlessly promise huge harm to our economy? Poly Toynbee and many more this week say Brexit will cause massive damage (in case you say you've not heard anyone say it)

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

They don't have to impose tariffs on our exports and we don't have to impose tariffs on theirs. Why do you think this?

It's a choice.

If they don't impose tariffs there will not be a problem, so if you think they won't impose tariffs where do you see the problem.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

They don't have to impose tariffs on our exports and we don't have to impose tariffs on theirs. Why do you think this?

It's a choice.

The EU shows no interest in discussing the matter currently. Chaos looms.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Even humour is banned now in the EU if it does not put the EU in a good light - certainly within the EU Parliament.

MEPs censor anti-EU cartoons from European Parliament exhibition

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/18/meps-censor-anti-eu-cartoons-european-parliament-exhibition/

It is paywalled but those without access will get the gist.

Images here should you wish to take a peek:
http://searchlight-germany.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/for-its-60th-birthday-eu-bans-12-out-of.html

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

Captain Obvious strikes again.

At the current time individual member states still have responsibility for their own fiscal affairs.

mayonnaise

Nothing to do with humour being banned or not.
I found some of them pretty tasteless also.