Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Zero_Gravitas

stator wrote: »

Hardly worth worrying about. We don't have to mirror anything. We can create our own safety regulations if we want. Doesn't really matter.

Actually, it really does matter. If we want to sell any products or services to any EU countries, we will have to conform to all the relevant EU safety legislation.

gfplux

Conrad wrote: »

So Ireland will merrily go along with massive self-harm given 17% of her total exports are UK bound (44% if you strip-out foreign owned firms)?


The usual Remainer response is to say Ireland / France et al 'will just focus on selling more to the EU'. This bares no scrutiny, if it was that easy to magic new customers they would have done it long ago.
Or that 'EU solidarity is more important than jobs and business'. Really?


So answer the question if you would, Ireland will merrily sign up to massive self-harm? Workers will think what of far away Brussels elites harming their livelihood's?

One route to limit the damage could be Irish unification.

TrickyTree83

gfplux wrote: »

One route to limit the damage could be Irish unification.

How does that help their exports to the UK?

TrickyTree83

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Actually, it really does matter. If we want to sell any products or services to any EU countries, we will have to conform to all the relevant EU safety legislation.

The same the world over no matter what product you manufacture.

It stops no business from doing so if there is profit to be made.

gfplux

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

How does that help their exports to the UK?

It will solve the border problem. So if their is a trade deal things will go smoothly.
Please don't think that if there is not a trade deal between the EU27 and Britain it will all go swimmingly for the UK or the 27.
However if that world of pain came to pass the UK will be hurting the most.
With 549 days plus 730 days of transition to go a deal will be done.
That's assuming the EU will grant the transition period which might hinge on Britain paying the financial settlement.
Mays speech in Florence "might" tell us more.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

One route to limit the damage could be Irish unification.

Limit the damage to who?
Besides the little fact that many in Northern Ireland want to remain British (which is the very reason it exists in the first place) there is considerable evidence to suggest that it would be catastrophic for a new Ireland:

A united Ireland would be worse off than the Republic

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/a-united-ireland-would-be-worse-off-than-the-republic-1.3010177

Then consider the likelihood of increased EU contributions, the possibility of disrupted travel links from the UK, etc. etc. etc.
You do realise that it is further from Spain or France to Ireland than it is from mainland UK?
http://www.politico.eu/article/cargo-food-production-producers-brexit-burns-irelands-british-bridge-to-eu-markets/


Methinks the chances are that May's Florence speech will upset you greatly.

gfplux

lisyloo wrote: »

I think most people would consider you are paranoid to put off travelling for a whole year. It's very bad publicity for tourism so things will get sorted pretty quickly.


People travel to place every day knowing their journeys won't be great (like London commuters). If there is a sufficient motivation to do the journey then we just prepare ourselves for it.


I've travelled through US airports before where I knew immigration was bad. Didn't put me off going just meant I allowed more time.

I think you have not noticed where I live.
I am only talking about visiting Britain being an issue in 2019
Although travelling transcontinental I have avoided transiting through Heathrow for +20 years. I just find the experience much more relaxing in other European hubs. It's just a matter of infrastructure.

Tromking

ilovehouses wrote: »

£:$ at 1.36 - that's up about 4 cents on the week. The highest level since the referendum. Still dire against the € but some solid gains this week.

Great news.

"The Brexiteers have trashed our currency!" they said.
Another Remoaner rallying cry dying a death.

gfplux

Politico have some trivia about Mays speech next week in Florence.

"What we know for sure: The time of the speech — a No. 10 official indicated it will be delivered at around 2 p.m. next Friday … The length of the speech — DExEU’s top official Olly Robbins was snapped walking out of Downing Street with a draft of the speech under his arm yesterday. It is currently 4,980 words long. According to speechinminutes.com, that should take May just over 38 minutes to deliver."

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

One route to limit the damage could be Irish unification.

Ireland weaning itself off its over reliance on access to the UK`s internal market is unfinished business from the Easter Rising in my view. Don't fight for independence from another country and then expect there not to be further changes in the relationship as time passes.
They would argue of course that Brexit has pulled the rug from underneath them, but as a Sovereign nation they still have a choice on what is important to them, yet inexplicably they've abrogated the responsibility for that choice to Mr Barnier and his chums.
That's the EU for you.