Boo to new scrappage scheme

Legacy_user

Ford have launched a new scrappage scheme, as I'm sure you're aware

Sadly that will remove some perfectly good bangers from circulation, luckily, it's only one company this time

And I worry about the supply of bangers drying up generally of new cars are generally less reliable

MataNui

Dont really see how these schemes make much difference really. They are only against new cars and really only apply to people trading in a sub 2k car against them. People who drive sub 2k 'bangers' are very unlikely to be trading them against a brand new car. Sure there will always be a few but its hardly going to make much of a dent in the numbers of these cars on the road.

Sicard

Well, the Gordon Brown scrappage scheme seemed to be fairly successful:

Around 400,000 new cars were registered through the government car scrappage scheme between April 2009 and March 2010.
The scheme, designed to increase new car sales and give the economy a good boost, offered motorists £2,000 off the price of a new car when they traded in an old model.
However, not all motorists who flocked to take advantage of the scheme really needed a new car and simply wanted to claim the £2,000 while they could. As a result, many cars in perfectly good condition and still roadworthy were handed over to the government.



Plus considering there's to be a ban on the sale of diesel and petrol cars by 2040 maybe it'll be a success too.


It seems both ideas will reduce pollution which has got to be good, hasn't it?

neilmcl

Does anyone really think that motor manufacturer's would lose out or the customer would be better off in any scrappage scheme they introduce of their own bat. Any perceived savings a customer thinks he's getting would easily be got by anyone buying a new car. It's just a ploy to sell more new Fords, plain and simple.

Keep_pedalling

MatthewAinsworth wrote: »

Ford have launched a new scrappage scheme, as I'm sure you're aware

Sadly that will remove some perfectly good bangers from circulation, luckily, it's only one company this time

And I worry about the supply of bangers drying up generally of new cars are generally less reliable

On what basis do you think new cars are less reliable? Certainly not my experience based on the last 2 new cars I have bought.

System

In the last scrappage scheme people buying new cars would buy a banger just to trade in, so they had to make rules that they had to own this banger for a set period of time, but people just rose to the challenge

Keep peddling - things I've heard about relitively new cars having problems that I've never had, being more complex, and developing so quickly that they're not fully developed when they reach market. Also suspicion that car manufacturers don't want cars to last forever

worried_jim

MatthewAinsworth wrote: »

In the last scrappage scheme people buying new cars would buy a banger just to trade in, so they had to make rules that they had to own this banger for a set period of time, but people just rose to the challenge

Keep peddling - things I've heard about relitively new cars having problems that I've never had, being more complex, and developing so quickly that they're not fully developed when they reach market. Also suspicion that car manufacturers don't want cars to last forever

Fair point. The cars themselves are not bad and are way more nicer places to be than cars of the 80's, Triumph v's any modern Korean box etc but it's the engines they use such as the 1.6hdi or even the new Ford 1.0 Ecoboost which can suffer from brittle pipes which can be dogs. Then you've got new desiels with particle filters etc.

Plus the government scheme was genuine, no manufacturer is just going to lob £2k off the price, that discount has to be built in somewhere, there is no free lunch, just suckers that think there is.

stator

I personally noticed a massive increase in second hand car prices after the original car scrappage scheme. It took hundreds of thousands of servicable second hand cars off the market and so prices went up. All for the sake of a £1000 discount that they probably could have negotiated off the list price anyway.

almillar

luckily, it's only one company this time

Nope. BMW launched a trade in scheme (they're not calling it scrappage) last week against low emission cars. At least BMW have electric cars to sell. The electric Focus is like a four leaf clover growing out of unicorn poo...

Well, the Gordon Brown scrappage scheme seemed to be fairly successful:

This was different though, this was actual government money (ah, motorguy agrees!). These are just headline allowances getting good press for car companies. You can have more than £2k off plenty of new cars anyway, so this scheme will just fit in amongst the other slush.

ssparks2003

MatthewAinsworth wrote: »

things I've heard about relitively new cars having problems that I've never had, being more complex, and developing so quickly that they're not fully developed when they reach market. Also suspicion that car manufacturers don't want cars to last forever

So a bloke down the pub and your own delusions of a conspiracy; not exactly going to get you the role of guest editor with Auto Express is it?

iolanthe07

modern Korean box

My 'modern Korean box' has a seven year warranty, so not too bothered if things go wrong.