Make a recording from BBC iPlayer?

Heedtheadvice

I was referring to the tv licence (apologies for spelling!!) as for iPlayer it is relevant.

However I do not think that I am qualified to post further on the interpretation of law. I hope that somebody else is.

But you are correct that I have concerns especially when fledgling companies or even those artists (without proper jobs) are trying to get established or employees (and others) rely somewhat on royalties for their income.

Good discussion though IMHO.

Heedtheadvice

You are correct that it is not law specific to copyright using iPlayer but really, if I understand correctly, an implication of TV licence law that applies specifically to programmes on iPlayer. I have taken some info on the BBC web site at face value. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37243332
I point it out as I think it relates to the OP question and follow up posts that mention such things as cheating. There could be two areas of law (maybe more ��) that are pertinent as well as technical solutions!!

Cornucopia

I had certainly presumed that the OP had a TV Licence. Use of iPlayer requires one.

onomatopoeia99

Cornucopia wrote: »

Yes, I agree, and in fact there is a set of valid "fair use" exemptions.

"Time shifting" is the only one that would apply to the vast majority of people though. A lot of people seem to think that making a copy of someone else's CD / DVD etc that they will only use in their own home is a "fair use" exception because it is for personal use and they aren't involved in commercial copyright violation (which is an actual crime, rather than a tort). They are wrong.

Cornucopia

Well, I found this:-

https://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law

It clearly talks about taking backups for personal use, "format shifting" and time-shifting that we've already mentioned.

Even that official source is not as clear as it could be.

- "Rent, lend or issue copies of the work to the public" - does that mean commercial or organised lending, or does it apply to anyone lending a CD, DVD, Book or Magazine? Does the lending mean the work, or copies of the work?

- "Copies and lending by librarians" - who defines who/what is a librarian?

(My librarian says: "ook" )

Doc_N

Still working in its latest incarnation, and still, by default, creating M4A files, which are presumably not time-limited in any way.

So presumably I'll be getting a prompt after 30 days to delete the file.

Cornucopia

Doc_N wrote: »

Still working in its latest incarnation, and still, by default, creating M4A files, which are presumably not time-limited in any way.

So presumably I'll be getting a prompt after 30 days to delete the file.

Get_iplayer? Yes, there is a team out there somewhere who update the software when necessary as the underpinnings of iPlayer change.

The deletion message is a nicety, and the software provides an option to proceed to delete content older than 30 days, or turn off the message.

There is also a message now that using content from iPlayer requires a TV Licence. What would be more helpful, I think, would be a statement that Get_iplayer needs a TV Licence, if that is the case. Personally, having read the legislation, I think that the point is arguable in Court.

That's not to encourage or advise anyone to use Get_iplayer without a Licence, and if anyone wishes to do so, I would suggest that they make their own enquiries on the matter, or take their device to a Licensed location to undertake downloads.