Is jaywalking (dangerous pedestrian crossing) ever a crime in England?

Car_54

almillar wrote: »

What is a 'horse'? I live in the city and I've never seen one...

It doesn't matter - the statement is rubbish.

NBLondon

It's a good question...


I'm frequently in Central London and one situation I see regularly is where the pelican is showing a red man but the traffic is so backed up it is stationary - so pedestrians decide to step out between the stopped vehicles and into the path of a 2-wheeler who is filtering through quite reasonably. I'd say that was a good case for claiming that the pedestrian would be at fault in a collision but harder to bring to court unless they were injured and remained at the scene. (Yes - I do it myself but only after triple-checking for a biker.)

agrinnall

almillar wrote: »

What is a 'horse'? I live in the city and I've never seen one...

What, you've never seen one of these? You should get out more .

Johno100

agrinnall wrote: »

What, you've never seen one of these? You should get out more .

Well you won't see many in brum, West Midlands Police got rid if their mounted branch in 1999.

Johno100

Dave_Brown. wrote: »

Yes, to pay towards their helicopter. Shame it went up in flames.

I heard they set up their barbecue too close to it.:D

SouthLondonUser

Let me tell you, horse poo can be very dangerous when you're on two wheels!

boliston

Mercdriver wrote: »

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Don't get me started on people who press the button walk across on the red and then you get the red light on a Toucan crossing with no one crossing...:mad:

There is a toucan near my workplace that i regularly use and sometimes i press the button and get green man almost straight away but other times i can wait several minutes. The road has almost constant traffic however if i get a decent gap in traffic i will cross on the red man simply because there might still be a long wait for the green man if i don't. It would be better if these crossings changed straight away rather than make people wait for no reason as at least then people would always cross on the green man.

boliston

NBLondon wrote: »

It's a good question...

I'm frequently in Central London and one situation I see regularly is where the pelican is showing a red man but the traffic is so backed up it is stationary - so pedestrians decide to step out between the stopped vehicles and into the path of a 2-wheeler who is filtering through quite reasonably. I'd say that was a good case for claiming that the pedestrian would be at fault in a collision but harder to bring to court unless they were injured and remained at the scene. (Yes - I do it myself but only after triple-checking for a biker.)

I filter on my bike a lot and expect pedestrians to also be filtering through stationary traffic so the onus is equally on both lots of filterers to take care - i will slow right down so i can always stop if someone steps into my path but i see other cyclists recklessly and aggressively swerve round pedestrians.

unholyangel

boliston wrote: »

There is a toucan near my workplace that i regularly use and sometimes i press the button and get green man almost straight away but other times i can wait several minutes. The road has almost constant traffic however if i get a decent gap in traffic i will cross on the red man simply because there might still be a long wait for the green man if i don't. It would be better if these crossings changed straight away rather than make people wait for no reason as at least then people would always cross on the green man.

Well if you class moving traffic as no reason, I guess you're right

boliston

unholyangel wrote: »

Well if you class moving traffic as no reason, I guess you're right

The traffic normally has to wait about 10 seconds at most and it does not make any difference to them if the wait those 10 seconds straight away or 3 minutes after the button press, it's still 10 seconds that they wait for.