Problem solved please delete

eleven3000

Hello, all sorted please delete thread.

Thanks for your opinions.

cjmillsnun

How long have you been employed by the firm?

Do you have a copy of the disciplinary policy? You normally have to be given some notice of a hearing and a chance to put your side of the case across. You also normally have the right to be accompanied by either a union rep (if a union is recognised and you are a member) or a colleague.

Bear in mind you have made 2 mistakes on one day, one of which is not wearing PPE provided and one is taking an unauthorised break. Both could be viewed as serious misconduct.

You will have to keep your nose clean for a while.

xapprenticex

sounds like they are not too keen on you

sangie595

Will3000 wrote: »

Hello, I had no other warnings on record and I have just been given a final written warning for 'conduct', for stupidly forgetting to wear my high vis vest while out on a delivery run and also mistakenly taking an hour break,when I was due 30 mins, because I thought I was on a longer shift.All this happened on the same day.

Does his sound appropriate? I feel it isnt and I am unsure whether I should appeal it and get access to higher management.

Cheers.

Unfortunately, all irrelevant. You did it. "Honest mistake" isn't a defence. Accept you were stupid, and keep your head down in the future.

Undervalued

So if a surgeon makes an "honest mistake" and the patient dies that is OK then?

steampowered

A final written warning sounds very harsh, if the infraction was as you described.

Though I'm not sure appealing it would do you any favours.

maninthestreet

Undervalued wrote: »

So if a surgeon makes an "honest mistake" and the patient dies that is OK then?

No one has died in the OP's case, have they??

getmore4less

The issue is the scenario you describe is a single day we have no context.

having said that companies don't like employing stupid and forgetful people.

The context will be how they found out about these 2 devations from procedure.

forgetting to slip on a hi-vis L is it common practice to not wear in the cab while driving and a single event on a low risk delivery might warrent a slightly lower sanction.

Forgetting when your start and end time were, if they determines your breaks seems far less plausible as a random forget.

Depending on the level of monitoring this event may have caused trust issues.

eleven3000

Been with the firm for 6 years. Its an extra job I do to guarantee bills are paid. I usually do a 10 hour shift on the day in question, were i'd be due a 1h break. For some reason was an 8 hour shift that week, when you are meant to have 30 mins.
Not stupid, just rushed off feet with a lot of work etc.
They found out by my line manager noticeing I had taken a longer break, then checking cctv.. I was then questioned about it a week later. I coudnt remember, but thought I'd done a 10h shift. They let me argue it and then at the end of hearing they said you were on an 8h shift and gave me the final written warning.
Surprised they view it serious enough for a final, even with the forgetting to put my high viz on.
Never done anything else wrong and 6 yrs of good work for them...feel like leaving but is a very convenient extra income for my current situation. However do not want to be fearful of now getting the sack unexpectidly for any petty mistakes I might make.
I called it an honest mistake meaning Ive done nothing malicious.

scd3scd4

At times like this you find reasonable, decent managers and jobs worth. I have worked for the same company for 20 years and considered myself very lucky to have met few jobs worth.


I am a Union rep and would have argued the above. Only if you were a constant PPE violator would it be an issue. I forgot my glasses a few weeks back. A middle manager spotted it and asked my supervisor if he could have a polite word! He did I apologised and that was that.


A verbal or 1st written would have been more than enough. I assume you can appeal.

Casey1709

Will3000 wrote: »

Been with the firm for 6 years. Its an extra job I do to guarantee bills are paid. I usually do a 10 hour shift on the day in question, were i'd be due a 1h break. For some reason was an 8 hour shift that week, when you are meant to have 30 mins.
Not stupid, just rushed off feet with a lot of work etc.
They found out by my line manager noticeing I had taken a longer break, then checking cctv.. I was then questioned about it a week later. I coudnt remeber, but thought id done a 10h shift. They let me argue it and then at the end of hearing they said you were on an 8h shift and gave me the final written warning.
Surprised they view it serious enough for a final even with the forgetting to put my high viz on.
Never done anything else wrong and 6 yrs of good work for them...feel like leaving but is a very convenient extra income for my current situation. However do not want to be fearful of now getting the sack unexpectidly for any mistakes I make.
I called it an honest mistake meaning Ive done nothing malicious.

Surely you know what time you started and finished that day?

Did you fess up at end of 8 hour shift that you'd had an hour break? Or did they challenge you? Have you had to pay the 30 mins back?