EasyJet passenger holding baby 'punched by airport worker'

Pollycat

trinidadone wrote: »

Well considering I am not the workers employer, you are correct, however, this is a forum which allows opinion expressed. I see you might not agree with my opinon, but thats ok, your opinon is valid, just like mine.

Well, with your opinion, you've tried & sentenced some guy who was assaulted by saying he should be dismissed.
I prefer to wait and see what other information comes out (I'm sure there will be more) and ultimately leave employment disciplinary decisions to the appropriate people rather than random people on a public forum.

powerful_Rogue

Pollycat wrote: »

I've not read anything about the pax getting the first punch in - do you have a link to this please.

Has the video of the passenger hitting the worker first.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4744242/Easyjet-passenger-SHOVED-worker-face-FIRST.html

trinidadone

Pollycat wrote: »

Well, with your opinion, you've tried & sentenced some guy who was assaulted by saying he should be dismissed.
I prefer to wait and see what other information comes out (I'm sure there will be more) and ultimately leave employment disciplinary decisions to the appropriate people rather than random people on a public forum.

yes that is my opinon, and yes he should be dismissed for striking a customer. This is a clear breach of gross misconduct and that is fine for me to have that opinon. In regards to weather the employee faces criminal charges, that is for the courts to address, but from a employment perspective, yes he must go. Oh yes, i am sure also there maybe more information, but we can only comment on the information supplied at the moment cant we? In regards to "disciplinary decisions to the appropriate people rather than random people on a public forum" again i am sorry you dont agree, but this is a public forum, and people can express their view point, which might not be in keeping with your own. Its healthy to have different view points, your allowed not to have one regarding his employment, and I am allowed to have point also.

trinidadone

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Has the video of the passenger hitting the worker first.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4744242/Easyjet-passenger-SHOVED-worker-face-FIRST.html

So now a video clip has now come about. thank you for providing this information.

powerful_Rogue

trinidadone wrote: »

yes that is my opinon, and yes he should be dismissed for striking a customer. This is a clear breach of gross misconduct and that is fine for me to have that opinon. In regards to weather the employee faces criminal charges, that is for the courts to address, but from a employment perspective, yes he must go. Oh yes, i am sure also there maybe more information, but we can only comment on the information supplied at the moment cant we? In regards to "disciplinary decisions to the appropriate people rather than random people on a public forum" again i am sorry you dont agree, but this is a public forum, and people can express their view point, which might not be in keeping with your own. Its healthy to have different view points, your allowed not to have one regarding his employment, and I am allowed to have point also.

In my opinion he should not face any disciplinary proceedings for acting in self defence.

Pollycat

trinidadone wrote: »

yes that is my opinon, and yes he should be dismissed for striking a customer. This is a clear breach of gross misconduct and that is fine for me to have that opinon. In regards to weather the employee faces criminal charges, that is for the courts to address, but from a employment perspective, yes he must go. Oh yes, i am sure also there maybe more information, but we can only comment on the information supplied at the moment cant we? In regards to "disciplinary decisions to the appropriate people rather than random people on a public forum" again i am sorry you dont agree, but this is a public forum, and people can express their view point, which might not be in keeping with your own. Its healthy to have different view points, your allowed not to have one regarding his employment, and I am allowed to have point also.

So an employee - doing his job - should just turn the other cheek when somebody assaults him in his place of work?
That's a really fair opinion you have there (not).

trinidadone

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

In my opinion he should not face any disciplinary proceedings for acting in self defence.

and your fully entitled to that opinion

Since the video clip was presented today, I am softening a little as it looks like a instant reaction from the staff member, but i still have concerns on his employment conduct.

trinidadone

Pollycat wrote: »

So an employee - doing his job - should just turn the other cheek when somebody assaults him in his place of work?
That's a really fair opinion you have there (not).

No, the employee should not turn the other cheek, but we cant allow staff members to take the law into their own hands. I feel for the assault, but cannot condone violence back, i am sure you can understand that??

If i went into a supermarket and started shouting at the check out person, i would not expect the check out person to shout back, same applies here.

powerful_Rogue

trinidadone wrote: »

No, the employee should not turn the other cheek, but we cant allow staff members to take the law into their own hands. I feel for the assault, but cannot condone violence back, i am sure you can understand that??

I can only comment as if this had taken place in the UK, as im not familiar with French law, however can't imagine it being that different.

You can use reasonable force to defend yourself from immediate and unlawful violence. What this man did was defend himself.

What the passenger did was violence, what the worker did was self defence.

trinidadone wrote: »

If i went into a supermarket and started shouting at the check out person, i would not expect the check out person to shout back, same applies here.

And thats the problem with today's society. Why do you think its ok to go in hollowing and shouting at a poor member of staff (probably on minimum wage in a supermarket) and expect them to just sit there and take it?

trinidadone

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

I can only comment as if this had taken place in the UK, as im not familiar with French law, however can't imagine it being that different.

You can use reasonable force to defend yourself from immediate and unlawful violence. What this man did was defend himself.

What the passenger did was violence, what the worker did was self defence.



And thats the problem with today's society. Why do you think its ok to go in hollowing and shouting at a poor member of staff (probably on minimum wage in a supermarket) and expect them to just sit there and take it?

I dont want to keep repeating what I have typed already, so I respect your opinon, and will leave that at that, have a nice day, the sun is shining where i am