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  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Good Afternoon,

    Can You check this for any updates please:

    MS563915

    Looks like we have had a reply from the solicitors and one of our Lawyers needs to consider that reply. I'd suggest posting again Tues/Wed for an update
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  • Hi,


    I have purchased a property that has two separate titles (one is for adjoining land). They will both be fully registered in my name. I was advised before that it is the transfer deed that you pay a fee for, and the deed will reference the two titles. I wondered if this is something that can still be registered for the reduced fee?


    Thanks.
  • I am buying a property where a lease extension has yet to be registered. My solicitor has asked the vendor's solicitors for this to be expedited.

    Can I check whether this has happened and, if possible, an eta of when this may be registered.

    Title number: EGL405320

    Thanks!
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Hi,


    I have purchased a property that has two separate titles (one is for adjoining land). They will both be fully registered in my name. I was advised before that it is the transfer deed that you pay a fee for, and the deed will reference the two titles. I wondered if this is something that can still be registered for the reduced fee?


    Thanks.
    ellectrastar - as you mention, the fee is based on the consideration in the transfer so it will be same whether that transfer affects one or two titles. I'm not sure what fee reduction you are referring to in these circumstances?
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Londora wrote: »
    I am buying a property where a lease extension has yet to be registered. My solicitor has asked the vendor's solicitors for this to be expedited.

    Can I check whether this has happened and, if possible, an eta of when this may be registered.

    Title number: EGL405320

    Thanks!
    Londora - At the time or writing, we have not received an expedition request for this application. The application was received on 7 September and is awaiting processing. It is difficult to give an estimated time for completion at this stage as once the application is fully considered, we may have to contact the solicitors acting to resolve any outstanding points for the application to be in order.
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
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    Hi Land Registry, hoping you can help.

    There is a piece of land, in England, owned as Tenants in Common between 4 people. The land is currently unregistered.

    One of the owners lived in Australia and recently died. They left their share to two beneficiaries (his children) who live in the UK. My questions therefore are:

    1) In order to evidence the assent (which would also trigger first registration) that an AS1 is required?
    2) Would the Land Registry recognise an Australian grant of probate?
    3) Do the other 3 Tenants in Common need to be a party to the AS1 (along the personal representative(s) of the deceased co-owner)?

    I am obviously aware that this will also create more than 4 legal owners, meaning that only 4 will be recorded on the new title, with the 4 registered proprietors holding the property on trust for the 5 of them. Do the Land Registry pick which 4 will be named, or is there an option for the 4 people named to be nominated by the owners?
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    da_rule wrote: »
    Hi Land Registry, hoping you can help.

    There is a piece of land, in England, owned as Tenants in Common between 4 people. The land is currently unregistered.

    One of the owners lived in Australia and recently died. They left their share to two beneficiaries (his children) who live in the UK. My questions therefore are:

    1) In order to evidence the assent (which would also trigger first registration) that an AS1 is required?
    2) Would the Land Registry recognise an Australian grant of probate?
    3) Do the other 3 Tenants in Common need to be a party to the AS1 (along the personal representative(s) of the deceased co-owner)?

    I am obviously aware that this will also create more than 4 legal owners, meaning that only 4 will be recorded on the new title, with the 4 registered proprietors holding the property on trust for the 5 of them. Do the Land Registry pick which 4 will be named, or is there an option for the 4 people named to be nominated by the owners?

    The TIC aspect relates to the beneficial ownership of the FOUR people. If one has died then the legal ownership passes to the surviving THREE

    So you can't assent a share and probate for the deceased 4th person is not needed to deal with the land.

    This may mean you want to reconsider your Qs as it seems likely that the real issue is how to protect the deceased's share of the beneficial ownership.

    However of the death has triggered the wish for the land to be registered then it's a voluntary first registration if putting it in the remaining THREE survivor names. Or a compulsory one if those THREE are going to transfer it to themselves plus the TWO beneficiaries.
    If the latter then you'd need to state which four should appear on the register
    And in both cases we would need an official/certified copy of the deceased's Australian death certificate, not probate
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Looks like we have had a reply from the solicitors and one of our Lawyers needs to consider that reply. I'd suggest posting again Tues/Wed for an update
    Hi, any updates please?
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Hi, any updates please?

    Nothing yet
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • davemorton
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    Okay, not sure if this is the right post for this thread, or if the LR can give me any guidance in this matter, but here goes. ( I have posted about this before, but have more details now.)

    Trying to but a leasehold house, lease has about 960 years left on it at around 12 pound a year. The sellers are selling off a relatives estate and it turns out that their solicitor who had the deeds in storage can not find them. They are now in correspondence with a Law Firm who acts on behalf of the Freeholder who may be able to assist with a counterpart lease.

    They are saying they will be required to re-construct the Title and are trying to do so as quickly as possible.

    If they get a new lease constructed, will it be as if the original deeds were not mislaid? i.e. absolute title, if that is the correct phrase)
    What sort of timescale does this take?

    Many thanks.
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