Land Registry questions

CanYouHelpPls

Hello @Land_Registry
Is there a way to determine of the type of tenancy on a Title Deed is Joint Tenancy or Tenants in Common?  Is there some added verbiage that indicates what type it is?  The Title Deed shows Registered owners and the names of the parties and the address, if the tenancy is Tenants in Common under this section would it show the percentage of the property each person owns and in the case of Joint Tenancy there would be no added information?

Land_Registry

CanYouHelpPls said:

Hello @Land_Registry
Is there a way to determine of the type of tenancy on a Title Deed is Joint Tenancy or Tenants in Common?  Is there some added verbiage that indicates what type it is?  The Title Deed shows Registered owners and the names of the parties and the address, if the tenancy is Tenants in Common under this section would it show the percentage of the property each person owns and in the case of Joint Tenancy there would be no added information?

The register is not definitive re such detail and the term 'tenants in common' is not referred to on the register.

Joint owners may indicate that they wish to hold the property as tenants in common when they are registered or may decide to sever their joint tenancy at some stage. When this happens, and where the land is registered, we can register a Form A restriction on the registered title, namely

'No disposition by a sole proprietor of the registered estate (except a trust corporation) under which capital money arises is to be registered unless authorised by an order of the court'

The Form A restriction does not itself change the ownership from beneficial joint tenancy to tenancy in common. The restriction only reflects the request or change made.

Whilst they might indicate what % shares are involved we don;t record or register that level of detail. And that can also change over time but again no need to inform us. 

If you wish to check and confirm the registered details then you can do so online 

For further information see Joint property ownership available on the GOV.UK website

Land_Registry

Southend_2 said:

Hi @Land_Registry. Our purchase has finally appeared on the land registry data feed after almost a year. However the transaction date is incorrect (out by a week). Is this important? Should we contact our solicitors to try to get it corrected? Nobody from the solicitors or land registry have been in touch yet to confirm the registration. I guess it would be solicitors who are supposed to inform us? Title number is AA24166.

The transaction date is taken from the actual Transfer as executed by the seller/purchaser. So that's correct as per the paperwork submitted by the conveyancer. The Transfer tends to be dated after the purchase has completed so best check with the conveyancer to confirm the date.
The conveyancer would be the only one notified after the application had been completed and the register updated. That was on 12th July

Southend_2

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Hi @Land_Registry. Our purchase has finally appeared on the land registry data feed after almost a year. However the transaction date is incorrect (out by a week). Is this important? Should we contact our solicitors to try to get it corrected? Nobody from the solicitors or land registry have been in touch yet to confirm the registration. I guess it would be solicitors who are supposed to inform us? Title number is AA24166.

The transaction date is taken from the actual Transfer as executed by the seller/purchaser. So that's correct as per the paperwork submitted by the conveyancer. The Transfer tends to be dated after the purchase has completed so best check with the conveyancer to confirm the date.
The conveyancer would be the only one notified after the application had been completed and the register updated. That was on 12th July

@Land_Registry for the reply. I'm sorry I don't understand the difference between the date of execution of the Transfer and the date the purchase completed. I was expecting to see the transaction date as the date we completed. Are you able to explain or point me in the direction of some information that would help me understand please? 

Edited to add... I've just found the details on the .gov.uk webpages which has the correct purchase date listed so I'm guessing it means something along the lines of the sale went through on xxx date but the paperwork was finalised a week later?

Land_Registry

Southend_2 said:

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Hi @Land_Registry. Our purchase has finally appeared on the land registry data feed after almost a year. However the transaction date is incorrect (out by a week). Is this important? Should we contact our solicitors to try to get it corrected? Nobody from the solicitors or land registry have been in touch yet to confirm the registration. I guess it would be solicitors who are supposed to inform us? Title number is AA24166.

The transaction date is taken from the actual Transfer as executed by the seller/purchaser. So that's correct as per the paperwork submitted by the conveyancer. The Transfer tends to be dated after the purchase has completed so best check with the conveyancer to confirm the date.
The conveyancer would be the only one notified after the application had been completed and the register updated. That was on 12th July

@Land_Registry for the reply. I'm sorry I don't understand the difference between the date of execution of the Transfer and the date the purchase completed. I was expecting to see the transaction date as the date we completed. Are you able to explain or point me in the direction of some information that would help me understand please? 

I assume what you are really getting at then is that the transaction date as shown online/dataset is not the same as the completion/transfer date. If so then you can report the dataset error online

user1977

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Hi @Land_Registry. Our purchase has finally appeared on the land registry data feed after almost a year. However the transaction date is incorrect (out by a week). Is this important? Should we contact our solicitors to try to get it corrected? Nobody from the solicitors or land registry have been in touch yet to confirm the registration. I guess it would be solicitors who are supposed to inform us? Title number is AA24166.

The transaction date is taken from the actual Transfer as executed by the seller/purchaser. So that's correct as per the paperwork submitted by the conveyancer. The Transfer tends to be dated after the purchase has completed so best check with the conveyancer to confirm the date.
The conveyancer would be the only one notified after the application had been completed and the register updated. That was on 12th July

@Land_Registry for the reply. I'm sorry I don't understand the difference between the date of execution of the Transfer and the date the purchase completed. I was expecting to see the transaction date as the date we completed. Are you able to explain or point me in the direction of some information that would help me understand please? 

I assume what you are really getting at then is that the transaction date as shown online/dataset is not the same as the completion/transfer date. If so then you can report the dataset error online

And also bear in mind that it's improbable that being a few days out would ever matter.

Land_Registry

user1977 said:

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Hi @Land_Registry. Our purchase has finally appeared on the land registry data feed after almost a year. However the transaction date is incorrect (out by a week). Is this important? Should we contact our solicitors to try to get it corrected? Nobody from the solicitors or land registry have been in touch yet to confirm the registration. I guess it would be solicitors who are supposed to inform us? Title number is AA24166.

The transaction date is taken from the actual Transfer as executed by the seller/purchaser. So that's correct as per the paperwork submitted by the conveyancer. The Transfer tends to be dated after the purchase has completed so best check with the conveyancer to confirm the date.
The conveyancer would be the only one notified after the application had been completed and the register updated. That was on 12th July

@Land_Registry for the reply. I'm sorry I don't understand the difference between the date of execution of the Transfer and the date the purchase completed. I was expecting to see the transaction date as the date we completed. Are you able to explain or point me in the direction of some information that would help me understand please? 

I assume what you are really getting at then is that the transaction date as shown online/dataset is not the same as the completion/transfer date. If so then you can report the dataset error online

And also bear in mind that it's improbable that being a few days out would ever matter.

I guess that all depends on whose reading/using the data and for what purpose. But if it reads one date but the completion date was something else then best to correct it as appropriate 

Southend_2

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Land_Registry said:

Southend_2 said:

Hi @Land_Registry. Our purchase has finally appeared on the land registry data feed after almost a year. However the transaction date is incorrect (out by a week). Is this important? Should we contact our solicitors to try to get it corrected? Nobody from the solicitors or land registry have been in touch yet to confirm the registration. I guess it would be solicitors who are supposed to inform us? Title number is AA24166.

The transaction date is taken from the actual Transfer as executed by the seller/purchaser. So that's correct as per the paperwork submitted by the conveyancer. The Transfer tends to be dated after the purchase has completed so best check with the conveyancer to confirm the date.
The conveyancer would be the only one notified after the application had been completed and the register updated. That was on 12th July

@Land_Registry for the reply. I'm sorry I don't understand the difference between the date of execution of the Transfer and the date the purchase completed. I was expecting to see the transaction date as the date we completed. Are you able to explain or point me in the direction of some information that would help me understand please? 

I assume what you are really getting at then is that the transaction date as shown online/dataset is not the same as the completion/transfer date. If so then you can report the dataset error online

Thanks again @Land_Registry. Yes, sorry if I explained badly. What I mean is that the completion was on the 1st of the month but the data at https://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ppd/ shows the transaction date as the 7th of the same month. Is that an error then or is it to do with the difference between when the sale completed and when the transfer was executed?

user1977

Is it not simply the registration date (which is invariably after completion)?

Southend_2

user1977 said:

Is it not simply the registration date (which is invariably after completion)?

No idea! It's taken almost a year to update so why they picked a date six days after completion I have no idea. But it says transaction date on their data feed thing. I just downloaded the title register for £3 and it is correct on there.