Land Registry questions

pinkteapot

Hello, 

Any update on the current waiting time for registration of a new property, which I believe is being done via a Transfer of Part? 

We bought our (new-build) house last year - completed on 14 November 2019. Still no registration. I think it's a transfer of part, because it was a small builder who bought a plot then built two houses on it, one for themselves and one to sell (which we bought).

Really bugging me that the paperwork hasn't gone through. And unfortunately the solicitor we used has a bizarre process where they don't send us all the paperwork for our house until the registration is complete, so we have no copy documents at all related to the house, almost a year on (obviously this part isn't Land Reg's fault!). 

Land_Registry

drsmudge said:

Hi

My brother, my sister, and I are executors of our late mum’s will.  We have grant of probate.

My sister has inherited our mum’s house, which isn’t registered with the land registry.  We consequently want to have the house registered in my sister’s name.

 We have the necessary forms, and the house deeds and associated documents; we think the matter is straightforward enough that we need not engage a solicitor or conveyancer to transfer the property and to register it with the land registry.

 Is it acceptable for my sister alone to apply to register and to transfer the house in her name?  If so, that would seem conveniently to remove the need to verify my brother’s and my own identities – and possibly also that of my sister (who would be acting as executor transferor and transferee).  Incidentally my sister has lived in that house, with our mum, for many years.

 Would the registration be considered, and charged, as a voluntary registration?

 Very many thanks for any help with this.

Anyone can apply so no reason why your sister cannot submit the application on her own. 

Similarly if she is the named and sole executor in the probate then evidence of her identity is covered by the probate. 

It would not be a voluntary registration as in order to become the legal owner she needs to assent it to herself, that assent is a transfer of legal ownership and therefore triggers the need to register 

Land_Registry

pinkteapot said:

Hello, 
Any update on the current waiting time for registration of a new property, which I believe is being done via a Transfer of Part? 
We bought our (new-build) house last year - completed on 14 November 2019. Still no registration. I think it's a transfer of part, because it was a small builder who bought a plot then built two houses on it, one for themselves and one to sell (which we bought).
Really bugging me that the paperwork hasn't gone through. And unfortunately the solicitor we used has a bizarre process where they don't send us all the paperwork for our house until the registration is complete, so we have no copy documents at all related to the house, almost a year on (obviously this part isn't Land Reg's fault!). 

Unfortunately we still have a backlog of this type of work so the length of time to date is invariably simply ‘waiting’ time from receipt to our considering it 
Nothing to worry about as you bought and completed the purchase and the application protects that. Of course such a long wait might be concerning for some but hopefully your solicitor explained the current delays and not to worry about the wait time for you. 

Hopefully it will be considered and completed shortly and when it is we will notify your solicitor and in turn they will share that detail with you including a copy of the completed registration 

Rainbow_Tea

How long are TR1 forms taking to process at Land Registry Service please? We have been gifted a property and the Solicitors have sent over the completed TR1 forms this week. The Solicitor have warned it could take months for the LRS to update the record. However, on the LRS Government website, the register update time frames are showing as 13 working days.
Confused! 

Land_Registry

Rainbow_Tea said:

How long are TR1 forms taking to process at Land Registry Service please? We have been gifted a property and the Solicitors have sent over the completed TR1 forms this week. The Solicitor have warned it could take months for the LRS to update the record. However, on the LRS Government website, the register update time frames are showing as 13 working days.
Confused! 

If it’s a register update re the Transfer then the current wait time is around 4-5 weeks 
The 13 day average you are referencing is from several months ago so should be ignored. Timescales are very much out of kilter due to impact of Covid 19 
Unsure why solicitor has warned it could ‘take months’ so worth confirming with them that it is a register update rather than a register create. The former is an update to an existing title whilst the latter is the creation of a new title, which will wait several months with a backlog of that type of work 

drsmudge

Land_Registry said:

drsmudge said:

Hi

My brother, my sister, and I are executors of our late mum’s will.  We have grant of probate.

My sister has inherited our mum’s house, which isn’t registered with the land registry.  We consequently want to have the house registered in my sister’s name.

 We have the necessary forms, and the house deeds and associated documents; we think the matter is straightforward enough that we need not engage a solicitor or conveyancer to transfer the property and to register it with the land registry.

 Is it acceptable for my sister alone to apply to register and to transfer the house in her name?  If so, that would seem conveniently to remove the need to verify my brother’s and my own identities – and possibly also that of my sister (who would be acting as executor transferor and transferee).  Incidentally my sister has lived in that house, with our mum, for many years.

 Would the registration be considered, and charged, as a voluntary registration?

 Very many thanks for any help with this.

Anyone can apply so no reason why your sister cannot submit the application on her own. 

Similarly if she is the named and sole executor in the probate then evidence of her identity is covered by the probate. 

It would not be a voluntary registration as in order to become the legal owner she needs to assent it to herself, that assent is a transfer of legal ownership and therefore triggers the need to register 

Thank you.  My sister is a named executor on the probate, but she isn't the only one.  My brother and I are also executors.  Am I right to infer that this means it's still ok for her to make the application on her own but she needs to provide evidence of her identity?

Aso - I'm sorry to have asked the same question on two forums - it was indeed me both times ...

dickibobboy

I was wondering if anyone can help with some wording in my title deeds. 

I currently have my house/garden then an access road behind (unsure who this belongs to and doesn’t show up on the map search) then my other garden/land. 

Behind this land backs onto another garden from a house on another street. 

This is the wording from my title deeds

The land tinted blue on the filed plan is subject to the following rights reserved by a Conveyance thereof dated 5 March 1945 made between (1) Mary Wilson (Vendor) and (2) Ronald Wilson (Purchaser):-  "RESERVING to the Vendor her successors in title and assigns owner or owners for the time being of the said property known as "Name Removed" a right of footway Four feet six inches wide (in common with the Purchaser) over the strip of land shown and coloured brown on the said plan and leading into the said occupation road".

Its hard to make out from the plan which this brown strip is but that’s not really an issue. 

I can’t quite work out what it actually means, Strangely the ‘vendor’ and ‘purchaser’ have the same surname. It reads that owners of said house have a right of way over this strip but the wording of ‘owner or owners for the time being’ suggests it was temporary? 

It’s not in dispute or anything, the land doesn’t have any gate and the wall that is up has probably been there for at least 20+ years. I’m just a little curious. 

Thanks. 

kitkat6

Hi, I need to send some documents to Land registry. They want some pre-registration deeds which I know they already have. Do I need to send these and must they be certified?

Land_Registry

drsmudge said:

Land_Registry said:

drsmudge said:

Hi

My brother, my sister, and I are executors of our late mum’s will.  We have grant of probate.

My sister has inherited our mum’s house, which isn’t registered with the land registry.  We consequently want to have the house registered in my sister’s name.

 We have the necessary forms, and the house deeds and associated documents; we think the matter is straightforward enough that we need not engage a solicitor or conveyancer to transfer the property and to register it with the land registry.

 Is it acceptable for my sister alone to apply to register and to transfer the house in her name?  If so, that would seem conveniently to remove the need to verify my brother’s and my own identities – and possibly also that of my sister (who would be acting as executor transferor and transferee).  Incidentally my sister has lived in that house, with our mum, for many years.

 Would the registration be considered, and charged, as a voluntary registration?

 Very many thanks for any help with this.

Anyone can apply so no reason why your sister cannot submit the application on her own. 

Similarly if she is the named and sole executor in the probate then evidence of her identity is covered by the probate. 

It would not be a voluntary registration as in order to become the legal owner she needs to assent it to herself, that assent is a transfer of legal ownership and therefore triggers the need to register 

Thank you.  My sister is a named executor on the probate, but she isn't the only one.  My brother and I are also executors.  Am I right to infer that this means it's still ok for her to make the application on her own but she needs to provide evidence of her identity?

Aso - I'm sorry to have asked the same question on two forums - it was indeed me both times ...

No need to apologise - just wanted to be sure
Anyone can lodge the application. 

The key is the probate. If you are all named then it’s usual that you all have to transfer it and anyone named in the probate as executor then doesn’t need to have their identity verified 

Land_Registry

kitkat6 said:

Hi, I need to send some documents to Land registry. They want some pre-registration deeds which I know they already have. Do I need to send these and must they be certified?

If we’ve asked for them yes. If they are originals then that’s what we need too. 

If they are plain copies and uncertified they may not be acceptable. All depends what we want them for