Have I been a complete ignoramus muppet? Please advise me on ukcps now I've ignored !

waamo

I'm in a kind mood.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=64350577&postcount=2

Where did you commit this henious crime? Sometimes the landowner is known.

Fairy1

Thank you for being kind to me! In.Leeds by the arena (and right next to student village) is a witherspoon pub called the stick and twist or something. At the rear of the pub building there's a service area entrance. It was there.

Fairy1

Is this about right?
Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your letter of 05/07/17.

I have had no response to my previous letters in May and June of 2017 and am still awaiting the information I asked for and am entitled to and ask once again that you send me the following information/documents:

• An explanation of the cause of action
• What the details of the claim are (where it is claimed the car was parked, for how long, how the monies being claimed arose and have been calculated, what contractual breach (if any) is being claimed)
• A copy of the contract with the landowner under which they assert authority to bring the claim
• A plan showing where any signs were displayed
details of the signs displayed (size of sign, size of font, height at which displayed)
If anything has been added on to the original charge, what that represents and how it has been calculated.


You now appear to have sent me a Letter Before Claim. However, your letter contains insufficient detail of the claim and, again, fails to provide the photographic evidence which I requested in my previous letter in May 2017.
I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it without this information, and it is entirely inappropriate (and a waste of costs and court time) to commence court proceedings.

Fairy1

Final draft...... have I got it right? I promise I will leave you in peace after this!

Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your letter of 05/07/17 regarding an alleged parking charge.
I have had no response to my previous letters in May and June of 2017 and am still awaiting the information I asked for and am entitled to. Despite not replying to my previous correspondence you now appear to have sent me a Letter Before Claim. However, your most recent letter contains insufficient detail of the claim and again, fails to provide the following information/documents: which I requested in my previous letters in May and June of 2017 which are as follows;
• Who is the party that contracted with UKCPS Ltd for the provision of their services at the site of the alleged to have taken place in Leeds?
• What is the full legal identity of the landowner?
• An explanation of the cause of action
• What the details of the claim are (where it is claimed the car was parked, for how long, how the monies being claimed arose and have been calculated, what contractual breach (if any) is being claimed)
• As you are not the landowner, please provide a contemporaneous and unredacted copy of your contract with the landholder that demonstrate that UKCPS Ltd have the authority of the landowner to both issue parking charges and legislate in your own name or on behalf of the landowner .
• A plan showing where any signs were displayed
details of the signs displayed (size of sign, size of font, height at which displayed)
If anything has been added on to the original charge, what that represents and how it has been calculated.
• Photographic evidence of the alleged offence
I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it without this information, and it is entirely inappropriate (and a waste of costs and court time) to commence court proceedings until you have supplied the information required.
I look forward to receiving your response. Should you choose to proceed with court action without yet again responding to my letter, you will be required to allocate a verification number for me to submit any appeal to POPLA.
Yours Sincerely,

Coupon-mad

Yes it is fine and looks very reasonable except there is no POPLA from UKCPS. Remove the end bit.

Personally I would NOT thank them at the start for their demand, I would 'refer to your letter' and at the end I would state that you will complain to your MP, and to Trading Standards in Leeds about them, should they persist with this harassment and aggressive business practice.

UKCPS might try court so you can certainly bother us again. But the reason for the stronger end to the letter, is to try to make them stop.

Fairy1

I'm back! So I sent the letter I showed you, recorded delivery. Today I have received 'Final reduced offer before solicitor action' offering me a chance to pay them £125 before 16/08/17
It ends saying 'if a settlement is not made......progressed to our solicitors for full debt recovery action which may include county court"
No acknowledgment of my letter!
What now?
Ps...hope you're enjoying our beautiful summer!

Redx

its either pay up , or front it out !!

we would suggest you do the latter, if they want to issue an MCOL then let them do so, and fight this in front of a judge

at the moment its just a debt letter , no biggie

its your choice

Fairy1

If I front it out, how likely is it I'll get an even bigger bill/have to pay for a solicitor myself etc? It seems so wrong that they can just totally ignore my letters and just carry on!

Umkomaas

You won't need a Solicitor. If UKCPS issue court papers we help with developing your defence. There is a very positive track record of forum assisted defence wins in the small claims court.

As long as the defendant behaves 'reasonably', costs at the SCC are heavily capped. If you lost, the likely cost to you would be £100 (original parking charge) plus the following costs the PPC has incurred in bringing the case to court - £25 filing fee, £25 hearing fee, max (capped) £50 for Solicitor fee, if they've used one. So ~£150 - £200.

But don't get ahead of yourself on this. Almost every PPC in the land threatens 'court' (and skinning your cat!) in their letters. The reality is that fewer than 1% of all tickets issued end up in the small claims court.

See what arises over the forthcoming months.

Fairy1

Thank you. So should I respond to this latest letter or just wait? It gave me til today to pay their kind offer of a reduced fee. They've not replied to.my letters so far. Thank you for your help