Is there a minimum property walkway / access size?

ams12688

the landowner isn't there, it's a paddock rented to some horse owners... there isn't a house on the field/paddock

PasturesNew

ams12688 wrote: »

the landowner isn't there, it's a paddock rented to some horse owners... there isn't a house on the field/paddock

Either ask around the village to find the owner, or get a friend/somebody to knock around the village asking who owns the paddock as they'd like to enquire about keeping their (non existent) horse there....

Locals will know who the field belongs to.

"That'll be Fred, sometimes delivers things to the iron foundry on Wednesdays, or you can find him in the pub on Thursdays ... ask Bob over at the cake shop, he knows him. He's got a big green van and an old Land Rover"

Norman_Castle

ams12688 wrote: »

surely I am able to ask for the temporary fencing to be moved a bit just so I have enough room to put up a nicer looking one (eek!).

You're talking of moving the fence a bit as a concession to you rather than establishing where the boundary is. The fact the fence appears temporary may show the landowner isn't entirely convinced it will stay. Talk to the landowner. The fence may have been moved through dislike of previous residents but them may be more agreeable to you. If not, you'll know who you are up against.

ams12688

thanks for everyone's replies - I'm glad i've now made it an issue!! (first solo project :A )

moneyistooshorttomention

£3 to the Land Registry for the Register entry of the next door land and you should be able to find out name/contact details of land owner. This is something you can do yourself - just look on the Land Registry website for details of how to.

TheCyclingProgrammer

Whilst plans at that scale can't be used to pin down the exact boundary, it does clearly show that the boundary is a straight line parallel to the side of the house - is there any obvious boundary line (fencing/hedging) towards the rear of the plot that can be used to determine what the boundary line should be?

Davesnave

It's just a guess, but no self-respecting horse owner uses barbed wire to control horses, which are apt to panic or get excited occsionally, easily injuring themselves.

So, the barbed wire probably wasn't to keep the horses in, but maybe it was there to keep the son and his mates away from the horses and electric fence, which runs or ran on the inner posts. It's essential electric fences are not tampered-with, as they have no strength in themselves.

It's just possible that there was a falling-out of some kind and the people renting the land took the law into their own hands. There may be no issue now and no formal permission from the land-owner.

I can only echo what others have said re sorting this out before exchange. Even basic work prep, like putting scaffolding up, will be impeded as things are

Ectophile

There's another thing that strikes me. Fhe boundary line shown in the deeds looks like it carries on over the linear feature at the back of the house (a stream?) and continues along to be the boundary of the next property on the other side.

A good look around from the back garden of the house, to look at the neighbouring properties, may well show where the fence line should be.

Johnhowell

Just looked on Map Search of Landregistry.gov.uk (make sure you use the proper gov website)
adjacent land is registered (The Newtons) Title £3 and Plan £3. Recommend download the PDFs and cross-check the plans. Hopefully the Newton's plan is larger scale than for No.12 Wayside Cottage.


Sadly, historical Street View on Google Maps are not available for this location. Could contact Google and ask?

Another thing the lighting column - these are usually placed on the line of boundary between properties. Which does tie up with the earlier sales web pages. I recommend you capture these web pages and details - proof

If you do not want the hassle and costs, walk away..


Good luck.

Altarf

ams12688 wrote: »

the landowner isn't there, it's a paddock rented to some horse owners... there isn't a house on the field/paddock

There isn't at the moment, but there will be. It is a prime building plot and as such the landowner will want the biggest area of land to sell.

As for the boundary, the deeds show that the boundary line with the field goes back as far as the stream, and it runs parallel with the boundary to the house on the other side. The thing to do would be to visit the property and see where the boundary meets the stream and work it out from there.

However it is not clear from picture 7 of the current listing (https://lc.zoocdn.com/57b11d5e857cd273c3d0f22cf611e30581c71389.jpg) whether the landowner has put the new barb wire fence straight back to the stream.

Google maps shows how it used to be, https://goo.gl/maps/eas88bxxuXn and http://i68.tinypic.com/1rw6ev.png with a 'kink' in the boundary from front to back, where the previous owner had extended things to park their car.

The landowner probably has moved the fence closer to the house than they should have done, but it will cost you £100,000+ to establish the truth.

Unless the property is so cheap you can change the layout to put a door in the front of the house, your only sensible thing to do is walk away.