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PCN envelope on car but no ticket inside!

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  • I'm struggling to figure out how my NTK isn't compliant, I checked the links you guys gave me and it seems to have all the info they're required to give? It's here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B566YVH_AwVqVHRiNWVmaXAtMVE/view?usp=sharing
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B566YVH_AwVqYlZJQ1ZtWWFSNUk/view?usp=sharing

    The only thing I could think was that it doesn't say "One Parking solutions is the creditor"? But is that right? It does clearly have their name and say it's owed to them so I wasn't sure if that was all they need to put. I think it was Coupon Mad who said it wasn't compliant and I should include something about that but I'm struggling, can anyone please give me a hint?

    My POPLA appeal is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10VG_3W9LLm4TTZL-45C39hRyQ1aKruCMw9Bz3tgR0xU/edit?usp=sharing

    I need to send it tonight as the deadline is tomorrow. Thanks!
  • Umkomaas
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    Creditor

    Period of Parking (has that been blanked out by you, or is it missing)

    Amount of the parking charge that remains unpaid

    No formal warning 'If after a period of ..........'

    I haven't gone back through the entire thread but was the NtK received between days 28 and 56 after the parking event?

    You need to check everything in Para 8 (for windscreen tickets) of Sched 4 of PoFA, pedantically and laboriously. The PPC getting it 'near enough' is not good enough - and it's your job to raise every omission to POPLA.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Umkomaas
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    Why haven't you queried 'Landowner Authority' in your POPLA appeal?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Thanks, the bits I blanked out to hide my details state info like my car make VRM etc, ref no. and says

    Contravention date: 14/07/2017 and the time it was ticketed (they put an empty pocket on windscreen and sent NTK within 14 days),
    Contrvanetion period : N/A to N/A
    Location: Vantage Point, Brighton, BN1 4GW
    Reason: Pay & Display Ticket Expired

    Amount Due within 28 days £100

    In the bit at the bottom - payment slip it says make payable to One Parking Solution.

    It says on the back about appealing within 28 days etc.

    It says they "may" pursue the keeper.
  • Umkomaas
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    None of the above make the NtK PoFA-compliant.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • I didn't see Landowner Authority on the sticky links post - will go and do more research. Thanks.
  • Umkomaas
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    Bexter8 wrote: »
    I didn't see Landowner Authority on the sticky links post - will go and do more research. Thanks.

    It's slap bang in the middle of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #3.

    Ready made appeal point for you to copy and paste, but please proof read it carefully to ensure it reflects your case - it won't in absolute detail, but you need to make sure there's nothing in it that is clearly contrary to your circumstances.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Thanks, found it added and adjusted! Just trying to write the NTK non compliance bit now.
  • OK, I think I'm getting there - at work today so been doing bits as and when I can with a million windows open to check other cases as still unsure how to word the non compliant with POFA bit but I have copied some stuff and will edit to fit. Thanks for the help, I'm hoping to get this finished once I get home and the kids are in bed. Any further guidance on the wording of point 3 would be very helpful. I need to read the POFA again too so will do so tonight.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/10VG_3W9LLm4TTZL-45C39hRyQ1aKruCMw9Bz3tgR0xU/edit?usp=sharing

    I'm unsure how I relate to the windscreen PCN vs ANPR rules as there was an empty plastic wallet left on windscreen which said a notice would follow. It was pay and display, not ANPR. I got the NTK within 2 weeks so is it as for ANPR as there was no information to the driver before then? Or maybe they had ANPR as well to monitor movements and swoop in to ticket.
  • I think I'm done. Could someone please give it a quick once over before I send? Thank you so much.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/10VG_3W9LLm4TTZL-45C39hRyQ1aKruCMw9Bz3tgR0xU/edit?usp=sharing
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