Tesco pay at pump debit delay

[Deleted User]

Mercdriver wrote: »

If you go in with intent, it becomes something different from just being 'caught short' of money.

I used to be a retail manager. The person that succeeded me as a store manager when I moved to a different store was caught raiding the safe and had been replacing the money after he was paid. Guess what? He was sacked and taken to court and convicted for theft. The fact that he was repaying it was irrelevant.

if you take goods you know you don't have the money for, that is theft. Last time I looked, that was a criminal offence.

What are you on about?

I said he could leave his details and pay later, nothing about not paying at all. I was just making clear that the police wouldn't be interested if you didn't go back after leaving your details.

I've worked in retail for 16 years so no need to explain to me.

Mercdriver

Deleted_User wrote: »

What are you on about?

I said he could leave his details and pay later, nothing about not paying at all. I was just making clear that the police wouldn't be interested if you didn't go back after leaving your details.

I've worked in retail for 16 years so no need to explain to me.

It's about 'intent'. If you take goods while knowing you don't have the means to pay, that isn't borrowing. That's theft. If you fill up and then find you don't have your wallet with you, that's an unfortunate mishap.

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

Mercdriver wrote: »

It's about 'intent'. If you take goods while knowing you don't have the means to pay, that isn't borrowing. That's theft. If you fill up and then find you don't have your wallet with you, that's an unfortunate mishap.

The reality is that it is very difficult to prove intent so it's an honourable draw, you are both right, it is a criminal act but the chances of it being criminally prosecuted are vanishingly small.

I still think the most likely punishment is not getting paid before the payments get processed and getting walloped by bank charges.

glider3560

Mercdriver wrote: »

It's about 'intent'. If you take goods while knowing you don't have the means to pay, that isn't borrowing. That's theft. If you fill up and then find you don't have your wallet with you, that's an unfortunate mishap.

Theft only occurs when there is the intention of permanently depriving the other of the property. Leaving your details with an intent to pay later is clearly demonstrating there is no intent to permanently deprive.

Mercdriver

glider3560 wrote: »

Theft only occurs when there is the intention of permanently depriving the other of the property. Leaving your details with an intent to pay later is clearly demonstrating there is no intent to permanently deprive.

So if you've used all the fuel that has been taken, then that fuel isn't coming back. It's gone. Permanently. I'm not saying a prosecution is likely. But it is possible.

arcon5

If payment fails it will be when the machine is authorising the card in the first place, before fuel is dispensed! If declined this conversation is moot since you can only do pay cashier option. If accepted it'll take you in to unauthorised overdraft if no money when it eventually comes out.

Dazz_B

Its not worth complining to Tesco, maybe you should of done something after realising the money hadnt left your account.
Does anyone know why Tesco pay at pump has started to not accept my Lloyds Bank Visa Debit at their pay at pump can only use in kiosk (if its open)

sheramber

Dazz_B wrote: »

Its not worth complining to Tesco, maybe you should of done something after realising the money hadnt left your account.
Does anyone know why Tesco pay at pump has started to not accept my Lloyds Bank Visa Debit at their pay at pump can only use in kiosk (if its open)

Has the magnetic strip been damaged? That can stop it working in pay at the pump as it uses the magnetic strip for authorisation.