IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

civil enforcement defence critique please

13

Comments

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,217 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I am concerned that my trial has been shifted from one venue to a much bigger one.
    Purely due to logistics of the courts. CEL will not want a hearing.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • fineandandy
    fineandandy Posts: 34 Forumite
    Thanks for this but mine is with civil enforcement and the trial has now been moved to a much bigger court and am concerned. Can anyone advise please as I have to present trial bundles in a couple of weeks now. Any help greatly received.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If you're that concerned, ring the court and ask them why it has been moved.

    My money is on Umkomaas and Coupon-mad being right.

    You appear to have overlooked their latest posts.
  • fineandandy
    fineandandy Posts: 34 Forumite
    Thanks for all responses.
    Unkomas the venue is similar in distance I guess but much more significant in all aspects, imposing size etc. I understand it might be logistics like coupon mad has suggested but I just ave a hunch it might not be. Is there a cost differentiation in buildings as venue to hold the same case does anyone know ? And would that make any diffference to all/ any parties anyways ?
    Anyways I have to send trial bundles to the original venue Very soon now. I have sent three emails to the court to get the date moved but still haven't heard a word from them in 8 weeks. I have tried calling many times but as yet unsuccessful, it's embarrasse8ng what is happening with the administration of the courts system. We have a separate issue with an elderly relative and it is shocking what is going on in terms of timescales and budgets. I will try again today to seek some affirmation from them as to why the change. If anyone can help with what is needed in a bundle I would be grateful. Thank you.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,469 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Is there a cost differentiation in buildings as venue to hold the same case does anyone know ?
    Costs are standard and not not influenced by size/stature of venue. Similar to another urban myth! :D
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,217 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Purely due to logistics of the courts. CEL will not want a hearing.
    Thanks for this but mine is with civil enforcement
    Errrm...CEL are Civil Enforcement Ltd. You are in a spin, pointlessly.

    Dead easy case.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Thanks for the reassurance coupon mad the original reference to my cel acknowledgment was directed at the parking prangster blogspot and parking eye reference.. can you off r something further as to bundles ? I am assuming it is a copy of everything I have sent and or published online to mcol and other side and anything evidence based I intend to use in court. Am I correct in that ?
    I am setting my mind to going to court and I will be defending myself with no witnesses.
    Daunting.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,217 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    But you won't be going to court.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 11 July 2018 at 5:27PM
    I am setting my mind to going to court and I will be defending myself with no witnesses.
    Don't get too excited.

    You will have read by now that CEL never go to court against defended cases.

    Daunting.
    Or maybe not.

    Have you seen this video:
  • fineandandy
    fineandandy Posts: 34 Forumite
    Thanks Keithp video was helpful.
    I understand that a well defended case is robust enough for cel to with draw proceedings I guess my concern is that I don't really know what a well defended case is am trusting the invaluable help people have given here and their assurance that it is. The FOI request information that was obtained from the justice department said that many many cases were dropped by cel but not all of them and it is that element of doubt that is troubling. That is all.
    I will submit my bundle to the court next week and see what happens from the other side I guess.

    What si the time limit counting down to a deadline that a case can be dropped does any one have any idea ?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.