disagreement at work over using the phone while in the car, anyone know whos right?

Johno100

Strider590 wrote: »

And yet you "thanked" the above response.

Yes and why not, the poster has recognised your snowflake tendencies over the reference to cyclists and thoughtfully changed their OP to placate you.

trinidadone

Strider590 wrote: »

And yet you "thanked" the above response.

Yes, I most certainly thanked the OP because I liked what the OP typed.

I changed my second message to "road user" to accommodate your needs!!

trinidadone

trinidadone wrote: »

Yes, I most certainly thanked the OP because I liked what the OP typed.

I changed my second message to "road user" to accommodate your needs!!

I have also edited the first posting for you, omitting the term "cyclist" I hope that is OK with you?

bugslet

FWIW, our company policy is not to use the mobile phone at all if you are in a works vehicle, either handset or bluetooth. We managed for years without them, we can do without them whilst driving.

AdrianC

Nodding_Donkey wrote: »

I can remember when mobiles first came about you could dial a number without looking at it thanks to the proper keypad and little bump on the number 5. Then came touch screens and it was impossible to make a call without looking at the screen.

Now of course everyone keeps the phone out of sight which means that they are looking in their lap or on the passenger seat when dialling.

Progress huh?

Now that's a first.
"Ah remember, when ah were a lad, and mobile phones were PROPER mobile phones..."

trinidadone wrote: »

Thankyou for the contributions all. I think the responses suggest there is confusion somewhat with "handheld". What if a road user uses a button positioned on a wired head set to disconnect a call??

There's only confusion if people cannot understand the concept of holding something in their hand. When you press a button on your dashboard, is the dashboard "hand-held"? It's a very, very simple concept.

The very first reply on the first page of the thread linked directly to the legislation.
Post 8 quoted it directly.

"a mobile telephone or other device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function"

Now, what part of that makes you think pressing a button on an earpiece might qualify?

photome

Rover_Driver wrote: »

The offence is not using the phone, it is using a 'hand-held' phone. It is only an offence if it is actually being held while using it.

That not what he told me.

he said it is an offence to touch it.

I wasnt using mine but I did touch it while it was sitting in centre console and was seen by a cop standing on the pavement

photome

neilmcl wrote: »

No, operating a phone would be. I would not be committing an offence if, as I often do, move my phone from my jeans pocket and placing it on to the passenger seat. It's not an offence to touch your phone, it's an offence to use it.

Either you are wrong or the traffic cop that spoke to me is wrong

AdrianC

photome wrote: »

Either you are wrong or the traffic cop that spoke to me is wrong

Can I go for option 3? You misunderstood or misremembered what he actually told you...

photome

Rover_Driver wrote: »

If it is laying on the seat, it is not being held, so it is not being 'hand held'.

As in Mercdriver's post, even the police get it wrong at times.

When you are issued with a ticket for doing exactly that would you pay or go to court

photome

AdrianC wrote: »

Can I go for option 3? You misunderstood or misremembered what he actually told you...

No I didnt and I got a ticket, and I had not picked up the phone

I did argue that I wasnt using it, he said I had the option of going to court, I chose not to contest, maybe I would have got off, but as I was offered a mobile phone awareness course I didnt contest it