The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

silvercar

Jackmydad wrote: »

I don't think that it's just that there aren't enough prisons, it's also that not enough people are sent to prison, and in a lot of cases it's not for long enough.

Article in the paper today, research shows that sentences of less than one year do not stop re-offending. Recommendation is that people shouldn't be sentenced for crimes where the prison tariff would be less than a year.

ivyleaf

What we've found odd that though we're retired (albeit we did have to stop work early, for health reasons), we still get that "Ooh, it's the weekend!" feeling and still tend to try to not do anything much at the weekends. weird.

PasturesNew

Pyxis wrote: »

You only need something like this



Or this




You just bang the pins in with a hammer, and the beauty is that when you remove them they only leave a tiny pinhole behind.

The reason I can't debate,or discuss, or argue...is that I always think of the correct answer days, weeks, or months after.

My answer to this should've been: but I have plasterboard walls and they aren't recommended either. Plasterboard fixing requires you to know where the wooden bits are ... so a detector ... and a drill to drill the hole for the special fitment.... and it's all a faff really.

chris_m

PasturesNew wrote: »

My answer to this should've been: but I have plasterboard walls and they aren't recommended either. Plasterboard fixing requires you to know where the wooden bits are ... so a detector ...

I didn't have any success with a stud detector so I spent ages going over one of my walls with strong magnets to locate the nails and, hence the studs - only to find when I started drilling that my walls are some form of wood sheet, probably plywood, not plasterboard at all as evidenced by the lack of plaster dust from the first few mm of drilling :rotfl:

Actually, there are plasterboard fixings available - comprising a deep, sharp, coarse threaded piece that you screw into the plasterboard (no drilling required) and another screw that you then screw into that. You do still need to know where the studs are, but for this application to avoid them, rather than using them, else the first piece won't screw in far enough.
e.g.;
https://www.wickes.co.uk/Fischer-Self-Drill-Plasterboard-Fixing---Pack-of-300/p/141293

PasturesNew

chris_m wrote: »

Actually, there are plasterboard fixings available - comprising a deep, sharp, coarse threaded piece that you screw into the plasterboard (no drilling required) and another screw that you then screw into that. You do still need to know where the studs are, but for this application to avoid them, rather than using them, else the first piece won't screw in far enough.
e.g.;
https://www.wickes.co.uk/Fischer-Self-Drill-Plasterboard-Fixing---Pack-of-300/p/141293

Everything looks straight forward on paper... until you start doing it and discover ..... you're not any good at this and did it wrong and now it's all going to pot... and it's just not working.

And, as you say, you still need to know where the studs are...so that's another tool to buy and use properly!!

SingleSue

Seaside location....glorious all day. I'm hoping for similar tomorrow as hoping to go to an all day gig but although it says sunny it also warns of thunderstorms in between.

Sod's law says.....

Pyxis

PasturesNew wrote: »

The reason I can't debate,or discuss, or argue...is that I always think of the correct answer days, weeks, or months after.

My answer to this should've been: but I have plasterboard walls and they aren't recommended either. Plasterboard fixing requires you to know where the wooden bits are ... so a detector ... and a drill to drill the hole for the special fitment.... and it's all a faff really.

You really don't need a drill for those fixings, Pastures, because you just tap them in with a hammer, both the plastic ones and the brass ones, and they're ok for plasterboard.

Providing the pictures don't weigh a ton, natch.

I've used loads of them for all sized pictures apart from really heavy ones.

PasturesNew

Pyxis wrote: »

You really don't need a drill for those fixings, Pastures, because you just tap them in with a hammer, both the plastic ones and the brass ones, and they're ok for plasterboard.

Providing the pictures don't weigh a ton, natch.

I've used loads of them for all sized pictures apart from really heavy ones.

Really? Just tap them in? Even I could do that ... she says optimistically ... once I've worked out where studs are.

I'm still umming and aahing about the wall fixings left behind from the previous owner from floating shelves she left.... I think the best result would be to simply buy more floating shelves and get "a little man" round to put the lot up. The alternative is to tortuously try to remove all the many rawl plugs and metal fixings, fill holes, then paint over them (2-3x to match in), but some of the walls might then need a "full splash of paint on the whole wall as it looks a mess".... so it might just be easier to get shelves and be done.

PasturesNew

Copied across from the other thread I post on:

I'm putting off building this kitchen unit as I fear problems and failure

Just slid all the parts out onto the floor in the kitchen - on a picnic blanket. List of tools ..... screwdriver, drill, hammer, spirit level. I've got those, but the drill's cordless and needs charging up, so I'll put that on my list to "get round to in a minute"..... it looks easy enough, but these things always do don't they

EDIT: Ah.... first problem. I bought a drill, cordless.... just got it out of the box and realised that it only came with one drill bit (of indeterminate size) - and the destructions say I need a 3mm and a 5mm drill bit! So, with two specified sizes, I can't "wing it" with one indeterminate sized bit. Down the shops when they open then! That puts a two hour delay on starting. The leaflet with the drill seems to indicate that the indeterminate size is a 50mm bit.

EDIT: Drill's charging and I've checked all the components in the plastic bag and got those out and sorted/counted.

Onto a winner here. Just the right drill bit sizes (and correct fitting type) to fathom out and acquire.

I'm not sure if I ever bought more drill bits for this drill .... and/or I might have some that I "kept" when I kept random odd tools of dad's (although they'd probably be a different fitting, as that's how life works).... might have a little look under the stairs to see if I did buy bits or not... in a bit.

And, of course, having got it out of the box, I can see that this unit is entirely a different colour to the existing units, but that doesn't matter as it won't be "fitted", it'll be free standing and just slid under the worktop to fill a space.... so I've somewhere to put away the microwave and mini grill so the worktop looks clear.

PasturesNew

I might have this coffee, then drive out to the market about 15-20 miles away .... see if there's a little man there that sells drill bits and also have a shuffle round the car boot sale I think's on there, perchance a "lucky find" of something that might "come in handy" .... e.g. a vase for a windowsill for £1 or something, or £1 for some fake flowers to bung into a £1 vase... although it's very unlikely of course.

Because, as we know, I "don't do interior design" when it comes to vases, flowers, pictures et al.... so I'd be unlucky to find anything vaguely suitable, especially with a price point of £1. But it's "going out" isn't it