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The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,295 Forumite
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    Pastures, if you post some photos of your kitchen, maybe people here will come up with some simple and cheap ideas?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    No need. The kitchen currently has dark brown base units.
    There are two "gaps" where a dishwasher can be fitted and a washing machine. I've neither. I want a simple (no need for a door) "unit" that fits into one/either of those gaps so I can get the microwave and mini oven off the worktop.

    The gaps are 600mm and 650mm wide - but as this base unit was 600mm and it didn't quite fit the smaller one, I'd be looking for something about 580mm/58cm wide.

    Depth needs to be smaller than 56cm, probably 50cm is "ideal" as its not intended to "sit flush" with the rest of the units.
    Height available is just under 87cm, so say a height of 80-86cm would do it.

    W: 55-58cm
    D: 50-54cm
    H: 80-86cm (inc any legs)

    Dark brown would be "best" to kind of match what's there, but the important thing is that it fits ... and is <£30.

    :)

    Call it shelves, or a cupboard, a cabinet, or a unit, a table with a shelf under, or whatever... no front door required at all. Open front. It should have one shelf, probably, preferably adjustable .... so two cubby holes one above the other.

    With legs, or without legs, not bothered... it can sit on the floor for all I care.

    It's simply "something that will fit in that gap, to put a couple of big things away".

    I'm now eyeing up my side table, which doesn't have a shelf under it, in case that "fits the job for now" ... except I use that for my monitor/keyboard at the moment.

    I'm not sure it's wise to fill those spaces. Most buyers will have a dishwasher and a washing machine, and if you make the kitchen look as though there isn't space for them, it will put people off. For the purpose of selling the house, you'd be better off appealing on freecycle for a dishwasher and washing machine that don't work (so nobody will want them and you can get them for free) to put in the spaces to "help people imagine themselves living there" as the property TV shows always tell sellers to do.

    Having the microwave on a worktop won't put people off, IMO. Likewise, if you put the mini oven under the table or similar, you will give an impression of "this kitchen is so small that appliances have to be put in stupidly inaccessible places". Putting the mini oven on top of the side table would be fine, though.

    It's probably best to get everything that's anything to do with the computer out of the kitchen, otherwise you will give the impression that the house is too small, and so spaces have to be mixed. Today's viewers want to see kitchens as spaces for cooking, eating, and entertaining, not for computers, which are associated with "work". You don't have to move the computer out of the kitchen until you're ready for photographs and viewings, though.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    It's not in the kitchen, it's in the living room ... I was looking at taking the side table from here and put it in there ....

    I don't want to be buying 2nd hand appliances .... the EA's capable of pointing to the two spaces and saying "fitments in there".... and it'd be written down in the details so they'd know...

    I'm just not explaining this all very well. And if I try to do more it'll get more confusing.

    I need to put the mini oven somewhere. At the moment, when not in use, it's "handily" on top of the bread bin, which is on top of a temporary table ... because when the mini oven is on the worktop there is NO worktop left. The table can then be put into position to "look like a dining table" and I'll need a couple of chairs... in short - a table in the kitchen needs to be shown as "a kitchen/dining space" ... so then I need to put the oven somewhere.... and the bread bin and the recycling that usually lives under it and the washing powder and the ....*insert endless items dumped on/around the table*

    It IS a small kitchen, but it looks big ... until you try to use it. It's got a big floorspace, but a lack of good/usable storage/cupboards.

    If I can move the microwave and the mini oven "out of sight" for viewings, there's a worktop..... otherwise it all just "looks cluttered" ... and you wonder why they're there...and then you realise there are only 3 double sockets and they're only on 2 walls :) I'll additionally be "hiding away" the toaster and kettle, that I just leave plugged in ... because they take up a whole single worktop space too....

    Ah I see. Hiding the microwave and mini oven away makes sense. I thought you meant you were going to have them visible and apparently to be used at inconvenient heights low down near the floor. Sorry for misunderstanding - and also about the table, computer etc.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    One base unit has food in it ... if I eat all that food .... the mini oven can go in there :)

    So that's the answer to that. One day in the next week I'll pull out everything that's in there and see how I can get through it all - it needed to be eaten anyway as I don't want to be moving food.... there's even a Fray Bentos pie bought "in case I fancy that" .... and I haven't as I bought two and didn't rate the first one. I should at least be able to get it down to just being on one shelf by reorganising where everything's kept (neat/ordered at the moment).

    That's where I keep the spuds too, but I'm sure I can still squeeze a 2.5Kg bag of spuds in there as and when required....
  • GDB2222
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    edited 28 May 2018 at 7:47PM
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-70302473.html

    See pic 3. It shows the kitchen of a £400k flat that has sold, which has a gap for an appliance in the kitchen. If you have a look around on Rightmove, you may find it's quite common to do that.

    If the wall in the gap looks unsightly, maybe paint it?

    If you post a photo .... ;)
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-70302473.html

    See pic 3. It shows the kitchen of a £400k flat that has sold, which has a gap for an appliance in the kitchen. If you have a look around on Rightmove, you may find it's quite common to do that.

    If the wall in the gap looks unsightly, maybe paint it?

    If you post a photo ....

    I think the issue is that PN wants to use the space to hide away the mini oven and microwave, so as to make the worktop look less cluttered, so she needs something that she can hide them away inside.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • GDB2222
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    I think the issue is that PN wants to use the space to hide away the mini oven and microwave, so as to make the worktop look less cluttered, so she needs something that she can hide them away inside.

    Put them in the shed and eat takeaways?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    edited 30 May 2018 at 7:56AM
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Put them in the shed and eat takeaways?

    Best idea yet. There's so much mess in the kitchen with washing dishes as there's always a pile "in soak" and another lot "air drying"...
  • michaels
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    If you 'hid' the min-oven some where could you put the microwave somewhere on the worktop even if there is no plug there?


    The turntable of our micro-combi oven has stopped working - we had an old one of the same model that I never took to the tip because I thought it might come in handy for parts. SO I did a major disassembly to get to the turntable motor and also the oven light (which had also stopped working on the oven we used). Then did the same to the one we use (disassemble and reassemble) and tried it - light worked for 5s then blew and turntable did not work still - reminding me that we had already swapped out the motor in the past....so 3 hours and a lot of struggling later (it is about 26kg) no further forward, just ordering a new turntable motor and bulb.
    I think....
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    edited 30 May 2018 at 7:55AM
    michaels wrote: »
    The turntable of .....
    I waste hours/effort due to not having the funds to "spend willy nilly without a thought". You are just tight :)
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