The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

vivatifosi

I also meant to mention, when I was at school we studied WW1, but only from the assassination of Franz Ferdinand to the Armistice.

We didn't study WW2 at all as it was considered too recent and political. And that was in the mid-late 1970s!

chris_m

There were two excellent TV series that pop up now and again on channels like Yesterday and BBC4 - "Hitler, the Rise of Evil" and "The Nazis, A Warning From History".
IIRC both give some coverage of the post WWI years and how & why the National Socialists got to power, before moving on to their excesses and subsequent atrocities.

In fact, the second one is on Yesterday at 17:00 on Tuesday 2nd, continued on Wednesday-Friday - the EPG description looks as if Tuesday's might be the first episode. Presumably the last two episodes will be the following week.

vivatifosi

Thanks Chris, I will look out for those.

One thing I can't bring myself to watch is the WW2 in colour documentaries. It somehow makes everything that happened more real. It remains more detached and in the history books in black and white.

PasturesNew

Studying WW2 in the 1970s was tricky as many people's parents fought/died in that war.... as did their uncles/grandfathers. Their parents still mourning the loss of those people.

Ditto for those who also had grandmothers they visited etc.

The War finished in 1945, by which time if you were born in 1927 or before you'd have been "called up for War work" (women included).
By 1975 anybody born in, say, 1925, was just 50 - parents of the kids of 1975.

Kids doing homework with their "given view on things" while their relatives around them remember starkly the "night granny was bombed and died" .... "the night XYZ lost his legs in the bombing", "Aunt Sally who never got over her son dying and went to his grave every day for the rest of her life and sat their and cried".... etc.

LydiaJ

chris_m wrote: »

Not something I've ever had to do, presumably I don't earn enough and/or never had taxable income from more than one source

I should be OK for a dozen years or so, because my taxable income is still all from one source but will probably get caught for doing a return when my state pension starts because that'll then mean I have two sources - unless they just change my tax code for the occupational pension.

All my other income is either within the interest allowance, within the dividends allowance or dividends within an ISA.

You should still be OK. I get income from several taxable sources - my salary, widow's pensions from two pension schemes, and a benefit called widowed parent's allowance. The WPA isn't taxed at source, so it's allowed for in my tax code. My salary is taxed as normal using that tax code, and then my two pensions are both sent tax code BR, which means to tax it at basic rate without deducting anything because my allowance is all used up on my salary. Still no need to do a tax return.

I suppose it might be more complicated if some of it needed taxing at basic rate and some at higher rate, but I don't get enough to have to worry about that.

My kids each get a survivor's pension from each of the two pension schemes too. HMRC split their personal allowances and send tax codes to each of the schemes with enough of the personal allowance to cover the amount they get, so those arrive without any tax taken off.

Pyxis wrote: »

I suppose the Mariages, Relationships and Families board would be the place for it?

:eek: That board is scary! The only times I've ever been on there, there have been vicious nasty things said.

Pyxis

Oh, it depends what thread you are on. I know one that is as kind and accepting as you could wish for.

It also depends on whether the OP is up for receiving advice. Not that that makes rudeness acceptable, but it can get people's backs up if the OP keeps dismissing what everyone says, iyswim.

But yes, there are ways of saying things without being abusive.

Pyxis

chris_m wrote: »

There were two excellent TV series that pop up now and again on channels like Yesterday and BBC4 - "Hitler, the Rise of Evil" and "The Nazis, A Warning From History".
IIRC both give some coverage of the post WWI years and how & why the National Socialists got to power, before moving on to their excesses and subsequent atrocities.

In fact, the second one is on Yesterday at 17:00 on Tuesday 2nd, continued on Wednesday-Friday - the EPG description looks as if Tuesday's might be the first episode. Presumably the last two episodes will be the following week.

And should be repeated and repeated.

In fact, it should be compulsory secondary school viewing, if it isn't already.

vivatifosi wrote: »

Thanks Chris, I will look out for those.

One thing I can't bring myself to watch is the WW2 in colour documentaries. It somehow makes everything that happened more real. It remains more detached and in the history books in black and white.

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I think that's why it is so interesting to read diaries. Even mundane things can be interesting 50,70, 100 years from now.

Look at "Housewife 49". Before that programme, I hadn't realised that people were asked to keep diaries for years, even well after the war finished, as a social record.

chris_m

chris_m wrote: »

In fact, the second one is on Yesterday at 17:00 on Tuesday 2nd

Rereading that, it looks bloody odd - Yesterday and Tuesday in the same sentence

It reminds me of when they renamed the channel that used to be UKTV History. Several times I would be looking through the programme guide and see something on Yesterday -and think "Damn, I've missed it." :rotfl:

Pyxis

chris_m wrote: »

Rereading that, it looks bloody odd - Yesterday and Tuesday in the same sentence

It reminds me of when they renamed the channel that used to be UKTV History. Several times I would be looking through the programme guide and see something on Yesterday -and think "Damn, I've missed it." :rotfl:

Not odd, though, because Yesterday has a capital letter.

It's more awkward when you're telling someone verbally, as I did once, to someone who had never heard of Yesterday, so they were looking increasingly puzzled as I was saying they hadn't missed it! :rotfl:

zagubov

Pyxis wrote: »

Not odd, though, because Yesterday has a capital letter.

It's more awkward when you're telling someone verbally, as I did once, to someone who had never heard of Yesterday, so they were looking increasingly puzzled as I was saying they hadn't missed it! :rotfl:

It's one thing there's confusion when a century starts and finishes but your mention of the Yesterday channel reminds me when the OU used to broadcast its lectures at night.

Some people not used to that would expect to watch a Wednesday night lecture by staying up late on Wednesday night not realising that the programmes had been on that same morning and they'd missed it!