The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

Pyxis

So, Lydia, if anyone visits you, is it a case of "Shh! Don't mention the floor!"



Or, you could say you're the hostess with the mostest with the floor with the flaw.
(Starting to sound like that Danny Kaye film now, you know, the one with various permutations of "the chalice with the malice has the brew that is true").

About 15 years ago my bedroom was redecorated and the walls were painted a very pale blue. Then about 10 years ago I decided I'd like a colour that was a bit more turquoise, so I got a couple of tester pots and put a square of each colour on each wall.
As a result, I decided to keep the very pale blue as it was, but I quite liked these random squares of the other colours, so decided to keep them! :rotfl:

Anyway, Lydia, you could always say your tester spots are the latest in modern art!


(My bedroom really does need doing now, as the ceiling wallpaper is falling off! God knows when it'll be done, though!)

Pyxis

Tee-hee, I've found the clip about the chalice! One of them , anyway..... it was from the film "The Court Jester".

(I'd forgotten about the magnetised armour! :rotfl:)

I'd really like to see that film again, it's very funny. Danny Kaye was brilliant, as always

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ9f2rnjB84

SingleSue

We had a house guest last night, the first one since James had a friend sleepover when he was 6. Joe wasn't best pleased at the prospect but apart from a mini meltdown, he coped with it (by shutting himself in his bedroom all night until he went to bed).

Josh was helping out a friend who had missed the last train back and I wasn't prepared (or able) to drive him back to Cambridge!

Doozergirl

LydiaJ wrote: »

The article says that while the complaints quoted are from Australian women, the doctors in question were French. The problem doesn't seem to be specific to any one country, anyway.

It's an interesting article in some ways, but I think it's ludicrous to suggest that doctors/surgeons are particularly callous about psychosexual side effects in women. I imagine that there are plenty of doctors who do care - but they may not be aware of how bad or how prevalent the side effects are, as the article noted when it discussed the limitations of the process for gathering statistics without including side effects only reported to GPs and not resulting in hospital readmission. And while obviously there are some doctors who are callous, I'm sure not even all of those are specifically callous to women. Even in this article, mention was made of the painful effect that this device can have on patients' male partners, but that didn't get the device banned either.

Before Viagra was discovered (by researchers who were trying to develop a hypertension treatment, not one for ED, because nobody was bothering much to try to find a treatment for that) men were generally just expected to keep quiet and do without if things weren't working well, just as much as women.

It's likewise risible to suggest that women suffer more stigma for psychosexual disfunction than men do, too. I read in the news a while ago about some poor chap in his 20s who took his own life, and it was only afterwards that anyone found out, from the note that he left, that he'd had complete ED since having mumps or something in his teens, and just couldn't live with the shame of admitting it to girlfriends, or face the embarrassment of seeing a doctor. The stigma is real, and it's horrible, but it's not uniquely female.

Can't the valid points be made without bringing in all this "nasty men are horrible to poor suffering women" dynamic? Castigating the "other side" as some kind of enemy doesn't make progress towards equality.

Why not look at it this way: This device causes an unacceptably high rate of extremely distressing complications. The procedures for gathering stats on devices are pathetic compared with the procedures for gathering stats on drugs, and need to be toughened up to be much more like what happens with drugs. The device needs to be withdrawn and the women who have been injured deserve help. Some surgeons tend to see their patients as cases rather than as people, and need to be re-educated. See - the main points made, with no man-bashing required.

All of that, but also I think possibly that the women got professionally outraged. Comparing anal sex (is that going to make the swear filter?) to an operation that doesn't solve every problem presented and 'abuse' is clearly an attitude thing, but the doctor isn't wrong to offer it up as a choice alongside many other types of stimulation. It's a thing and plenty enough people enjoy it willingly. Just because the doctor has a penis to use, it doesn't make him a bad person.

If one cannot have successful penetrative sex, and see that as unsuccessful sex overall, then one probably does need a bit of advice in that department. Sex and intimacy isn't and therefore shouldn't be seen as one flavour. If the ice cream man runs out of vanilla ice cream, it doesn't necessarily mean that he has no ice cream! It's a good time to experiment with something different so it's a good idea to suggest it; but no one is forcing anyone.

I do think that offering sexual therapy in that letter along with the suggestion of different flavours of sex would be more helpful.

GDB2222

I'm beginning to feel that I should have read past the headline of that article I linked to.



Peter in Cabbage van has already delivered to us.

silvercar

GDB2222 wrote: »

I'm beginning to feel that I should have read past the headline of that article I linked to.



Peter in Cabbage van has already delivered to us.

Are those two sentences linked?

I have no idea what the latter one means, linked or not!

chris_m

GDB2222 wrote: »

Peter in Cabbage van has already delivered to us.

silvercar wrote: »

Are those two sentences linked?
I have no idea what the latter one means, linked or not!

I'll hazard a guess at an Ocado delivery

GDB2222

silvercar wrote: »

Are those two sentences linked?

I have no idea what the latter one means, linked or not!

There is no link between the two sentences. Ocado text the name of their delivery driver (which is sensible for security reasons), plus they give their vans silly names (which seems to be pretty pointless, but perhaps they think it's cool). Ocado are not into anal sex or vaginal mesh, AFAIK. Not yet, anyway.

Pyxis

I too was wondering if cabbage van was a euphemism I hadn't yet heard of!



If it wasn't before, it is now!


You'll never look at Peter in the same light again, now, GDB!

michaels

Well at least it wasn't Roger in the fudge van....