PIP zero points (Assessment report)

poppy12345

SpiderOftheWeb wrote: »

It is disgusting how many of us including myself and people a lot worse then myself were promised permanent DLA for life yet the government decided to scrap it and force people to take repeated PIP assessments every three weeks.

Every 3 weeks? The longest PIP awards that are on going are for 10 years, rare but they do happen. 3 weeks is not the case though, even for PIP standards lol. My first award length was 2 years, my 2nd is now 3 years. Reviews are always done 1 year before an award is due to end.

Helping_Hands

OP, the same happened to me, zero points, failed MR and at Tribunal I was awarded 2 points. I didn't have the will to push any further. I have declined significantly since my initial claim for PIP last summer but have not yet applied again for PIP, I've not got the will to put myself through it again.

Destabilising

I'm sorry that this has happened to you.


Would it be beneficial for you if you took this to your GP & local acute mental health team and ask them to write solid evidence stating otherwise? If you have them going at it both angles, physical and mental health teams, it may aid your case. Especially if it's the mental health specialist teams.

Chrysalis

It is draining mentally (and physically if you struggle to attend).

Even tho I won my last tribunal, the experience was bad enough it prevented me from claiming PIP when I got sent a PIP renewal form.

The kind of drain this process has can cause serious amounts of anxiety, depression and even suicidal thoughts in people.

SpiderOftheWeb

Chrysalis wrote: »

It is draining mentally (and physically if you struggle to attend).

Even tho I won my last tribunal, the experience was bad enough it prevented me from claiming PIP when I got sent a PIP renewal form.

The kind of drain this process has can cause serious amounts of anxiety, depression and even suicidal thoughts in people.

The thought of going to a tribunal terrifies me especially since I was told that I have to go in a room on my own and be confronted by several people and that will end up having a effect on my anxiety and depression. I have a habit of looking at the floor or everywhere around me when I am feeling uncomfortable and I am worried invade they tell me to stop looking at the floor and to look at them.

I read somewhere about someone hearing about her PIP assessment on the phone. They told her she scored zero points and when she tried explaining about it is affecting her health, the assessor basically said "Well life's a !!!!! ain't it" that caused her to break down in tears only to be told "oh here comes the sob stories, I have heard them all before"

I am not surprised by that story especially considering the report about me along with downplaying my MH when I told her about my paranoia, depression and anxiety not forgetting stuff like telling my carer to 'shhh' everytime he/she helped me.

IAmWales

I read somewhere about someone hearing about her PIP assessment on the phone. They told her she scored zero points and when she tried explaining about it is affecting her health, the assessor basically said "Well life's a !!!!! ain't it" that caused her to break down in tears only to be told "oh here comes the sob stories, I have heard them all before"

You shouldn't believe everything you read online. I expect someone had a call from a decision maker to be told they had insufficient points and the rest is made up. The calls are recorded, no one would say those things. Also, the assessment itself would not take place by telephone, it would be either at an assessment centre, at home, or more unusually at a mutually agreed medical centre (for instance, where someone sees their mental health worker).

You don't have to go into the tribunal alone, and the panel will not tell you off for not looking at them.

Chrysalis

In my IB days I had a couple of conversations with decision makers over the phone, one was a friendly conversation, the other one was a decision maker with attitude.

Both cases were after a decision had already been made. I have never heard of a DM changing their mind over the phone after the decision has been made, so not quite sure what the purpose of the calls are.

SpiderOftheWeb

According to my psychology report, it is out of date but I don't know how to get it updated like for example, I use to go on the bus on my own knowing someone will be waiting for me at the next step but the problem is, 1, I have not seen him since around 2015 and 2, during those times, when I was on the bus on my own, the driver told everyone to get off and I ended up stranded. 3, my depression/anxiety/paranoia have got worse and I go on any bus on my own without being a wreck.

My Carer also told them at the time that he felt like I could cook and make a meal on my own but obviously I can't because the last time I tried to, I ruined it and made myself Ill.

I need to update my meds because the 20mg citlapram is not working for me (according to the assessor, I am supposedly coping and that it is a low dose) but the reasons I don't is because I need help with organizing appointments as in prompting to do so and the other is it takes several weeks and even a month to get an appointment with the right doctor.

The earliest appointment is with a doctor that a lot of people including myself do not trust. He is in his 80s or 90s, he is deaf and he is known for messing up meds and misdiagnosing people. The good news is that he is retiring.

teddysmum

SpiderOftheWeb wrote: »

My Carer also told them at the time that he felt like I could cook and make a meal on my own but obviously I can't because the last time I tried to, I ruined it and made myself Ill.

Your carer has faith in your ability prepare a meal,so don't say you can't do it based on one failure and have another try.


Everyone, including Cordon Bleu chefs have cooking disasters and my husband in particular, who cooked a shop bought pizza with the polystyrene base still attached. I often get distracted and boil pans of vegetables dry and a friend who is a qualified chef, admitted that she had a sponge cake faila few weeks ago.

SpiderOftheWeb

teddysmum wrote: »

Your carer has faith in your ability prepare a meal,so don't say you can't do it based on one failure and have another try.


Everyone, including Cordon Bleu chefs have cooking disasters and my husband in particular, who cooked a shop bought pizza with the polystyrene base still attached. I often get distracted and boil pans of vegetables dry and a friend who is a qualified chef, admitted that she had a sponge cake faila few weeks ago.

The reason I need help with cooking a meal is that I am easily overwhelmed with information and that I don't know the right volume of food to use also I am easily confused by how long to cook the meal and I am easily distracted. Also I am easily forgetful like for example at night, I repeatedly check if the doors are locked at night.

Just because my carer (it is not an official but a family member) thought at the time does not mean that I am able to cook unaided.