Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

We collectively decided we didn't want to sit at the table anymore so that's that. The pragmatic solution is for the UK to adopt EU standards to try and reduce trade friction albeit without the same influence over those standards. It's politically difficult for the government because the media will be in a frenzy asking how come we still have to monitor the bendiness of bananas etc.

Maybe they call it a transitional arrangement?

Yes, why not totally ignore the fact that as current members of the EU, the UK already has adopted and currently uses EU standards?
:whistle:

mayonnaise

cogito wrote: »

Who occupied Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Finland and Sweden?

Finland got invaded by Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Ireland was occupied until 1922

Spain and Portugal invaded by Brexiteers.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

If you are referring to me please point me to any lie or misinformation that I have posted.

gfplux wrote: »

There is something that binds the 27 together that you should not ignore.
All have been invaded/occupied in living memory.

And the responses included:

cogito wrote: »

Who occupied Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Finland and Sweden?

Just as a reminder, "in living memory".

always_sunny

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Aldi today announce expansion plans for the UK:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-aldi-jobs-britain-idUKKBN19W0SY?il=0

And "HSBC Chief Executive Stuart Gulliver confirmed on Tuesday possible plans to move 1,000 jobs from Britain to Paris in case of a so-called 'hard' Brexit"
Sounds like a great swap!

Arklight

always_sunny wrote: »

And "HSBC Chief Executive Stuart Gulliver confirmed on Tuesday possible plans to move 1,000 jobs from Britain to Paris in case of a so-called 'hard' Brexit"
Sounds like a great swap!

We may be losing a high value British bank with a huge global footproint thanks to Brexit, but that's OK because a budget German supermarket is moving in.


Well, they sell Pringles and microwave kebabs, and all the other things Brexit voters like so that must be good news.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

Aren't we pondering what might happen post Brexit?

I ignored nothing. I just didn't think stating the bleeding obvious would be that enlightening.

Oh so you must instead have meant that our compliance with EU standards would cease the moment we leave the EU?
Or that the EU would race to update all these regulations just to make the UK non-compliant?
Enlightening indeed, thank you.

Conrad

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Then perhaps that Danes may well be the most affected by Brexit?
https://www.thelocal.dk/20170421/denmark-potentially-most-affected-by-brexit-pm
Shocking indeed Mayo.
No reasons there at all for some Danes to want out of the EU.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I've collated some of the other examples of European Govts & sectors calling for their trade with UK not to be harmed.


Just thought this may help others in case they want a list to post around the net;








HOLLAND


'Any restriction on free trade with UK would
be at the cost of Dutch prosperity and jobs' ERGO GOOD UKDEAL A MUST
"Why would we offer nice deals for Ukraine and Turkey and not to Britain?


http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-netherlands-idUKKBN16S17A?il=0
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Hungary


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo06pb1hXbU
Hungarian Foreign Minister;


3.08 - "Britain gets free hand you will
be able to sign global free trade deals which EU does not have, and this will
harm European competiveness"


4.30 - "we want to end up with a mutually
beneficial trade deal, the most comprehensive economic trade & investment
partnership"
……………………..
German car industry worried
Deloitte’s German unit study - 'hit to German carmakers from a “no-deal”, will be traumatic'


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/22/europe-waking-impact-hard-brexit/




"We shouldn't forget that 750,000
jobs in Germany depend on the trade with the United Kingdom",


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39522265


Wolfgang Schaeuble said a cliff-edge withdrawal from the EU without an agreed deal would
be a disaster for Europe


https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0120/846435-brexit/


……………………
Brexit fears mount in Spain


Spanish exporter federation - Fepex
wants a no harm deal to ensure their trade with UK not disrupted.


http://www.fruitnet.com/fpj/article/171734/brexit-fears-mount-in-spain



Flemish rally to avoid a hard Brexit
Flemish Minister President insisted
that EU will need trade deal-plus that will privilege UK biz

http://www.politico.eu/article/flanders-fabrics-face-brexit-backlash/




Belgian biz is looking for closest possible trade ties with the UK after the country quits the free trade bloc


http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/1.2879376#

……………………………………
Italian foreign minister Angelino

Alfano said Wednesday that serious negotiations must be held on Great Britain's
leaving of the European Union, but that "the approach must not be to
punish London".
http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2017/03/29/italian-foreign-min-calls-for-non-punitive-brexit-talks_a3591619-8ec5-40a2-a350-ea2e88aa54c7.html
……………………………………………


SWEDEN
Sweden in favour of free trade and we
want a solution that is as beneficial as possible” Swedish finance minister
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/24/sweden-holds-out-olive-branch-to-brexit-britain/
...................................................


Switzerland's economy minister said
Sunday he wants to have "background" talks with Britain so that a
trade deal can be in place as soon as the UK leaves the European Union
………………………………


Enda Kenny backs Theresa May's
'friction-free' trading goal post-Brexit
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/enda-kenny-backs-theresa-mays-frictionfree-trading-goal-postbrexit-35409812.html

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A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

And "HSBC Chief Executive Stuart Gulliver confirmed on Tuesday possible plans to move 1,000 jobs from Britain to Paris in case of a so-called 'hard' Brexit"
Sounds like a great swap!

Ahem.
One important word there: "possible".
When it becomes fact you may rub your hands in glee if you still so desire; to do so now is premature.

Oh and FYI the HSBC have been issuing threats to leave the UK for years now, certainly well before Brexit was even imagined.

Plus this:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-27/why-banks-aren-t-likely-to-bolt-the-u-k-just-yet

always_sunny

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Ahem.
One important word there: "possible".
When it becomes fact you may rub your hands in glee if you still so desire; to do so now is premature.

Oh and FYI the HSBC have been issuing threats to leave the UK for years now, certainly well before Brexit was even imagined.

It is very important indeed, HSBC like many other organisation are all preparing for worst case scenario that can be enacted if needed.

The fact that Aldi is creating 4k jobs is not a beacon of prosperity really.
Unless needed, most would have little desire to go shop at Aldi. I suspect working at Aldi is not high on the career aspiration either. Maybe you need to dig a bit more and ask why.

always_sunny

Conrad wrote: »

I've collated some of the other examples of European Govts & sectors calling for their trade with UK not to be harmed.
Just thought this may help others in case they want a list to post around the net;

You can collate few other ones too (I have removed them but can be accessed only for cluttering reasons).

The consensus though is that there is no intention from the EU to punish the UK, though no EU member state wants to give the UK a free lunch, essentially the having the cake and eating it too.

The UK wants to be in a better position in relation to the EU than an EU member state.
There's the same uproar in the UK at the suggestion that post-Brexit EU nationals would have a better proposition than UK nationals.