Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

It is very important indeed, HSBC like many other organisation are all preparing for worst case scenario that can be enacted if needed.

The fact that Aldi is creating 4k jobs is not a beacon of prosperity really.
Unless needed, most would have little desire to go shop at Aldi. I suspect working at Aldi is not high on the career aspiration either. Maybe you need to dig a bit more and ask why.

All prudent organisations will make preparations for worst-case scenarios and also for a range of eventualities - but you don't generally see these bandied-about in our media as supposedly-factual news because?

4k jobs is prosperity for Aldi - and judging by their sales as well as this expansion, your suggestion that "most would have little desire to go shop at Aldi" doesn't hold water does it?
Also I'm sure Aldi employees will be so pleased to learn that a job there isn't aspirational; they must not have career advancement into management in your opinion then?

always_sunny

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

All prudent organisations will make preparations for worst-case scenarios and also for a range of eventualities - but you don't generally see these bandied-about in our media as supposedly-factual news because?

4k jobs is prosperity for Aldi - and judging by their sales as well as this expansion, your suggestion that "most would have little desire to go shop at Aldi" doesn't hold water does it?
Also I'm sure Aldi employees will be so pleased to learn that a job there isn't aspirational; they must not have career advancement into management in your opinion then?

You're confusing desire with need.
Do shopper go to Aldi because it offers then superior products or because of value?
If Aldi offered the same item at the same cost of Sainsburys would people still go there?

Actually I did have a schoolmate and all she wanted to do was working for a supermarket at the checkout! I always thought she was the odd one but maybe it's what folks in the UK dream to do as a job.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

You're confusing desire with need.
Do shopper go to Aldi because it offers then superior products or because of value?
If Aldi offered the same item at the same cost of Sainsburys would people still go there?

Actually I did have a schoolmate and all she wanted to do was working for a supermarket at the checkout! I always thought she was the odd one but maybe it's what folks in the UK dream to do as a job.

Ah so you think shoppers NEED to shop at Aldi, not that they want to shop there?
What a load of juvenile male cattle you attempt.
Because according to your thinking the record sales of their "premium" ranges means that these have become necessities obviously.

The budget chain’s “specially selected” premium range saw sales rocket 27 per cent

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/aldi-supermarket-christmas-record-sales-shoppers-premium-luxury-ranges-uk-german-budget-store-a7517646.html

It seems then that your opinion bears no relation to established fact whatsoever.

Thrugelmir

always_sunny wrote: »

And "HSBC Chief Executive Stuart Gulliver confirmed on Tuesday possible plans to move 1,000 jobs from Britain to Paris in case of a so-called 'hard' Brexit"
Sounds like a great swap!

Perhaps you've missed the much much earlier news of HSBC restructuring itself globally. Far too easy to bury bad news once there's other events hitting the headlines. Nor forget we don't like highly paid bankers in the UK. Funny how the wind changes.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

There is something that binds the 27 together that you should not ignore.
All have been invaded/occupied in living memory.

The very deep scars are far from healed though.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

There's no myth or magic to the Aldi model. They simply offer less choice, less frills and run their business on lower product margins. The issue for UK retailers is that they've taken the consumer for a mug so it's difficult to change the model.

Like Lidl, a private business. From my years of being involved in Germany owned private companies. The trail normally stops dead at Lichtenstein. Thereafter totally off shore. If you feel you wish to stop the rot buy from a Co-Operative organisation. Either National or Local. Then you'll makr a difference.

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

Finland got invaded by Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Ireland was occupied until 1922

Finland fought three separate Russian invasions but fought them off. Finland was not occupied.

As for Ireland, please don't be silly.

cogito

ilovehouses wrote: »

The effects could be more profound.

Aldi turnover more per employee than Tesco et al. Therefore if Aldi's market share is growing there's a good chance that the number of workers in the grocery sector is falling.

There's no myth or magic to the Aldi model. They simply offer less choice, less frills and run their business on lower product margins. The issue for UK retailers is that they've taken the consumer for a mug so it's difficult to change the model.

It can't just be me who is slightly disgruntled about have to pay for greeters, trolley collectors, security guards and the rest via my weekly shop.

I'm quite happy to be offered less choice. It's a pain in the chuff trying to choose between 20 varieties of baked beans. Two is plenty for me.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

I doubt many consumers overly worry about the distinction. We all know Lidl is cheap and Co-op expensive. At least with Lidl some of the money that would've otherwise left their pockets stays there.

Yet people must own an iPhone. Or drive a BMW. Or go to Florida for their holidays.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

cogito wrote: »

I'm quite happy to be offered less choice. It's a pain in the chuff trying to choose between 20 varieties of baked beans. Two is plenty for me.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Yet people must own an iPhone. Or drive a BMW. Or go to Florida for their holidays.

Oh please don't attempt logic in this thread as from past experience certain posters cannot cope with either logic or fact, it seems.