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Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

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  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    The current deal is the best deal and that's what the UK has been told many times.



    What will be the extent of our economic decline in 2, 3 and 5 years?


    Lets look back then and have a chuckle.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Sapphire wrote: »
    Certainly won't be in my home. I even hide the TV inside a cupboard…:rotfl:

    I've got a 3D scanner :)

    'Spose I need a 3D printer to match!

    (Oh, and I also have a kettle, but that is traditional)
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    I watched a Bloomberg interview with Varadkar this morning. He's been quoted as saying



    TBH I was confused, puzzled and down right astonished at his lack of depth of knowledge abour Brexit.

    Varadkar - we're leaving - get your head out of the ground and get your country ready.

    Yes indeed.

    He needs to be on the front foot. Maybe he can get on the blower to Trump, asking for advice on a "wall" ;)
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    We already discussed this BS extensively a week or so ago, here's some light reading to demonstrate your completely flawed claim:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/infact/brexit-report-latest-remainers-deport-eu-citizens-uk-back-hard-european-union-study-explained-a7892216.html




    From the 'Independent', a total rag with a diet of misinformation, bias and incomplete reporting. I have much fun there with the most gullible readers one can find.
  • Conrad wrote: »
    From the 'Independent', a total rag with a diet of misinformation, bias and incomplete reporting. I have much fun there with the most gullible readers one can find.

    Don't be a bore, if you disagree with what they've said then say so and why. But it's rather difficult to say that their reporting of what the research actually says is inaccurate, you can check it for yourself... and if you think the research itself isn't reliable... see where we end up?

    You're also just admitting to being a troll. Are you actually 12?
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I've got a 3D scanner :)

    'Spose I need a 3D printer to match!

    (Oh, and I also have a kettle, but that is traditional)

    I think that needs a thread on its own - what people do (today) with 3D scanners/printers at home! I'd be curious to hear use cases...
    EU expat working in London
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    ....
    And actually, they are like printing documents - the extrusion nozzle places a layer of material across the surface.The difference is the 3D printer repeats this moving up vertically. Different material, sure, but other than that....

    It's actually liquid printing which interests me the most, which is potentially much quicker than the deposit method you describe.

    I am out of my depth on materials science, but the way this researcher was explaining the next stage is the ability to program at a molecular level.

    Anyway, we should get back to the boring EU bickering :)
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,935 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    SUMMARY

    UK will benefit from tailored local decision making and knowing who to blame for poor policy.

    Isn't May trying to bring a lot of decision making back to Westminster?
  • Sapphire
    Sapphire Posts: 4,269 Forumite
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    edited 22 August 2017 at 6:05PM
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I've got a 3D scanner :)

    'Spose I need a 3D printer to match!

    (Oh, and I also have a kettle, but that is traditional)

    As well as the TV being in a cupboard unless in use, when I just open the doors to see it, my washing machine and dishwasher are hidden away behind cupboard doors (part of the kitchen units).

    My fridge is quite an old Bosch that refuses to break down, and I'm too mean to replace it before it does so. It is in a cupboard, but that one doesn't have doors, though it does have a cupboard above it that is part of the units.

    I've tried to make my kitchen/dining room as unkitchen-like as possible, and have found that a retro-style cooker, kettle and toaster (Dualit) makes it least 'industrial' looking.

    I have a Mac computer (used for work), but that's got its own space in my study, which I don't use other than for work/paperwork and that sort of thing. The Mac is an elegant machine, but it doesn't really fit with the sort of look that I like.

    It's not too bad. I know some people don't mind/like to have lots of tech around, but it's just not my style…

    All so relevant to Brexit. :D
  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    With regards to 3D printing posts above...

    Yes, 3D printing a rather poor term, the correct terminology is actually 'additive manufacturing' and it offers an advantage in terms of material efficiency and as the technology develops, possibly the precision of CNC milling (if you don't know what milling is I highly recommend a visit to youtube, search 5 axis milling, it's really quite a satisying process to watch!). Milling is used where casting (moulds) aren't possible.

    Kettles are a bad example for 3D printing, because moulds are efficient and cost effective in high volumes. However, a 3D printer would allow you to make a kettle in whatever design you fancy. Or you could make kettles as a business and do small batches of any number of different designs (not cost effective when the fixed cost of a mould can be substantial).

    With regards to materials, 3D printers are using a miniaturised version of extrusion. You can extrude a number of different metals, including aluminium. There's no reason 3D printers, as they advance, couldn't print with a number of materials beyond the couple of plastics currently used. To follow your examples above, you absolutely can 3D print food, but you don't print a loaf of bread for the same reason you don't print kettles - but you would 3D print a custom design or message, in say, icing on a cake, because a 3D could be more efficient and intricate than doing it by hand.

    3D printers in the home will likely be treated the same way as normal printers are today, but commercial versions most certainly have a future in manufacturing (and for production, just R&D). I don't mean this as a dig, but many of you are seeing this from the perspective of consumers, I'm seeing it from the perspective of a manufacturer (NB I'm in a commercial function, not an engineer, but still) - anybody else work in manufacturing and see the extensive possibilities?

    Rusty, thank you.
    5 axis milling is compulsive viewing.
    A whole world I did not know existed.
    Thanks.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
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