Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

Rusty_Shackleton

Independent: Quarter of Brexit voters say they were misled, poll finds

What's everyone's take on this? A compelling case for a referendum on the deal or buyers remorse so tough s**t?

always_sunny

kabayiri wrote: »

Look at where many of the graphene phd researchers come from. Look at where the Chinese premier made a point of visiting on his UK visit. Look at where the funding for Cambridge and Oxford research programs is coming from.

It's increasingly the East. This is my point. I don't think the EU is the salvation people think it is.

Maybe this is a wake up call.

Not the graphene theory again!!!!

kabayiri

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Independent: Quarter of Brexit voters say they were misled, poll finds

What's everyone's take on this? A compelling case for a referendum on the deal or buyers remorse so tough s**t?

Well, if you can't summarise a complex value judgement like Leaving in a simple yes/no question, how are you going to summarise what is likely to be a complex deal?

Isn't it the same problem?

I will make a guess right now, that the documented deal will run to much more than 12 pages, and it won't come with a handy instruction dvd.

People with vested interests from both sides will read in to the deal what their default bias suggests. These will be the people who will be briefing the public what it means. Cue a load of arguments then.

mixedchicks

tyjutryutrutr

Fella

UK records first July Surplus since 2002:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/22/uk-records-first-july-surplus-since-2002-thanks-bumper-tax-receipts/

Now sit back & await the whining & carping from bitter Remain voters that it's not a big enough surplus etc etc etc yawn yawn.

Conrad

Image demonstrating how EU tariffs inflate the price of oranges and excludes S African produce.


https://twitter.com/DavidJo52951945/status/899925973583396864

Conrad

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Independent: Quarter of Brexit voters say they were misled, poll finds

What's everyone's take on this? A compelling case for a referendum on the deal or buyers remorse so tough s**t?

The average voter still chooses Brexit as their main course.
Though Leave’s referendum victory was narrow (52-48), its support base has since widened. Polling has consistently shown that around two-thirds of voters believe that the UK has a duty to leave the EU, regardless of their original preference.


Majority of Remain supporters confirmed they favour greater controls over EU immigration.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2017/08/hopes-anti-brexit-party-are-illusory-remainers-have-new-plan-stay-eu

Conrad

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Independent: Quarter of Brexit voters say they were misled, poll finds

What's everyone's take on this? A compelling case for a referendum on the deal or buyers remorse so tough s**t?

Why would you ignore the vast misleading by Project Fear?
So many examples, even 2 Treasury Select Committees roundly condemned Osborne / Cameron Treasury figure fixing that told us many miss-truths such that THE VOTE TO LEAVE ALONE would lead to 500,000 lost jobs within a year of the vote. In fact we've put on a huge number of jobs.


Remainers must feel quite miffed that they fell for all the scare story nonsense.

always_sunny

Conrad wrote: »

Image demonstrating how EU tariffs inflate the price of oranges and excludes S African produce.


https://twitter.com/DavidJo52951945/status/899925973583396864

Can't wait post-Brexit to see how the UK will puts aside its industries (and workers) for the cheapest products and services from abroad.

What are some products that the UK produces cheaper than anywhere else?

Conrad

always_sunny wrote: »

Beside, the perception of the UK will be crushed in the EU and everywhere else. (i.e. after few years out, the UK realised that the grass is not so green out there and begs to be re-admitted).

These are the posts I enjoy most, the window into the mind of the pessimist.


Cannot wait for your reaction when it finally dawns on you we've done very nicely thanks and retain close alliance and friendship with Europe. I've just returned from Andaluc!a and Cadiz, the Spanish tret us with great warmth and friendliness wherever we went, whether Spanish holidaymakers or the woman that owned the vineyard.


The only negative comment we got was from this daft old Swedish socialist, completely living on another planet. She even said 'all those job losses in the UK, is it getting any easier to find work yet'!!

Perma-doomers interest me much, especially their propensity to sift information and set aside all that which doesn't back-up their world view.