Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Just shows that Britain is in no hurry.
From Bloomberg, again.

"At least the two sides will be well-rested by the time talks resume.

The EU has decided to accept the U.K.’s request to delay the start of the next round of negotiations to enable British officials to enjoy the annual “summer bank holiday” on August 28, according to two people familiar with that matter. Discussions will now begin on the Tuesday or Wednesday.

That’s despite EU officials being forced to work on a public holiday last week when the British government published an important Brexit document."

Who forced them to work? I doubt it was the UK.

Rusty_Shackleton

People talking about the disruption of brexit leading to new opportunities, that sectors will adjust, ignore the reality of recent history. How well have many northern towns adjusted to the closure of mines and their manufacturing base? They've had longer than I've been alive to adjust and do something new, it doesn't happen. It could happen, but that requires investment and strategy from government. Why are we disrupting and potentially ruining people lives (again)? Why is that an acceptable price for your perception of "sovereignty"?

Those talking about wanting our government to have full control - I often wonder, when this is spoken by anyone outside London, what planet they're on? Our government are neglectful of most of the country, while the EU prioritises funds to where its needed. The EU, for all its flaws, has demonstrated it cares more about the English regions than Westminster has.

The above comments about EU serving it's own politicians' interests are deluded if they think Murdoch, Dacre, Barclay Brothers, Farage, BoJo, Gove or anyone else pro-brexit is out for anyone but themselves. As someone else has mentioned, a good reason for many of the brexiters views is because they loathe oversight and checks on their power. Would anyone pro-leave care to answer me this: is it just the European Union having oversight you object to, or do you object to oversight and limits to power in general? Do you believe the UK government is willing and capable of the necessary oversight to prevent absolute a**eholes getting even more of their way? (Hint: the EU have been stopped from clamping down on tax havens by none other than the UK government on multiple occasions)

It astounds me how much faith brexiters seem to have in our government... it's all very well talking about past glories, but do you really have faith in the competence of anyone in Westminster or Whitehall today? They prove themselves woefully inept time and again! I know many of you hate experts with a passion, but you seem to think we're going to do well with luck and a prayer, and you ignore the significant failures of this country to up-skill and retrain people, to support R&D and industry, to actually have any long term strategy.

setmefree2

Crawford Falconer takes up post as UK's top trade negotiator

The man in charge of negotiating the UK's trade deals once Brexit is finalised, starts his job this week.
Crawford Falconer will take up the post of chief trade negotiation adviser at the Department for International Trade.

Prof Alan Winters, from the University of Sussex's UK Trade Policy Observatory, said Mr Falconer's experience and contacts at the WTO would mean the groundwork for separating UK trade policy from Brussels would be made easier.
"He knows quite a lot of the main players at the WTO and can build bridges at the European Council, which is good as there is work to be done right now," he said.
"There is work he can do, such as discussions on whether the UK uses replicas or changes trade agreements that we have with nations by way of membership with the EU."
One suggestion has been that initially trade agreements could be adopted by the UK in their current form - replicating them - at the point of Brexit, to be altered subsequently as new deals are agreed.
International Trade Secretary Liam Fox said of the new appointee: "Crawford Falconer brings a wealth of international trade expertise to our international economic department, ensuring that as we leave the EU, the UK will be at the forefront of global free trade and driving the case for international openness."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40992101

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

The timetable is clear, and David Davis and his team agreed to it.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/86833/david-davis-caves-eu-over-brexit-timetable
First there needs to be progress on citizen's rights, Northern Ireland and Brexit bill. There hasn't been any noticeable progress on any of these thanks to our stubborn 'have cake and eat it' stance. End of story.

Some people think that there's been no progress on these issues because the EU team have no mandate to negotiate outside their position papers. As far as I can see, it's the UK that has been trying to be reasonable and the EU that's being stubborn.

It will simply go on like that with every proposal being rejected as 'absurd' or 'the UK don't understand' or 'the UK are underprepared' and the remainers will cling on to every word as if it's the unvarnished truth.

Rusty_Shackleton

cogito wrote: »

Who forced them to work? I doubt it was the UK.

That's an important point... they probably chose to work, public holiday or no, because they're diligent public servants. Good luck finding that at a senior level in this country.

setmefree2

Britain's post-Brexit trade deals will make the world a safer place by forging new alliances between the UK and other nations, the country's new chief trade negotiator says today. Crawford Falconer warns of the "destructive political consequences of closed markets" as he calls on the G20 to break down trade barriers to boost global security.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/20/britains-future-trade-deals-will-make-world-safer-place-governments/

setmefree2

Singapore may renegotiate EU trade deal after Brexit removes British markets

Singapore has raised the prospect of renegotiating terms on a long-awaited free trade deal with the European Union (EU) due to the impact of Brexit, a Square Mile official has revealed.

Sherry Madera, the City of London Corporation's special adviser for Asia, told the Press Association questions have been asked at meetings in Singapore about the nation's right to a "remedy" if access to UK financial markets no longer form part of the deal.

The EU and Singapore completed their negotiations on a free trade agreement (FTA) back in 2015, but the deal is still awaiting the backing of the European Parliament and member states.
Any move to revisit the terms may encourage other countries to demand revisions on FTAs in order to reflect Britain's exit from the bloc.

http://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/singapore-may-renegotiate-eu-trade-deal-after-brexit-removes-british-markets-36052157.html

Rusty_Shackleton

GreatApe wrote: »

3D printing is nonsense its not going to revolutionise mass manufacturing.

You can 3D print yourself a loaf of bread via a small 3D printer called a bread machine yet 99% of people buy it from the large 3D printer called a bakery.

3D printing is in it's infancy - is there a reason you think it won't improve to the point of being commercially useful in the future? Thinking about the manufacturing I work in, 3D printing is far more efficient (in terms of material used) than milling and offers greater accuracy and intricacy than moulds/casting and larger scale material extrusion.

Of course, 3D printing is already used for rapid (and cheap) prototyping, but there will be enormous benefits to manufacturing when it can be scaled up for mass production, the quality improves, and as the printers are equipped to handle a greater number of materials. Think about the possibilities of the speed and cost base of mass production, but the ability to customise each individual unit as the designer see's fit.

To give a basic comparison, pre-photocopiers if you wanted to mass produce a document you needed a printing press, now commercial printers are closer to photocopiers than printing presses for all but the largest volume jobs. But the real advantage isn't that photocopiers can print so quickly and cheaply, it's that it doesn't matter if the copier is printing the same page a thousand times, or a thousand different pages once... it's just as fast, and the marginal cost of changing what you're printing is zero.

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

3D printing is in it's infancy - is there a reason you think it won't improve to the point of being commercially useful in the future? Thinking about the manufacturing I work in, 3D printing is far more efficient than milling and offers greater accuracy and intricacy than moulds/casting and larger scale material extrusion.

Of course, 3D printing is already used for rapid (and cheap) prototyping, there will be enormous benefits to manufacturing when it can be scaled up for mass production, the quality improves, and as the printers are equipped to handle a greater number of materials.

if one large machine can produce something for the whole population why do you need to have everyone have their own machine to produce the same thing?

the only benefit to a 3d printer is to tailor make something for yourself and thats it. but thats not comparable to mass production of an single product which is by far way way cheaper.

always_sunny

setmefree2 wrote: »

..and still not a peep from the EU - other than we want a £100 billion....give us all your money....blah blah blah...useless....

Because the EU position hasn't changed, so peeps in the UK can re-read the same.
Eventually it'll sink in. Here's a link.