Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

mayonnaise

Rinoa wrote: »

That should tell us just how unified the EU really is.

Well yeah, obviously.
Any EU country would love to have these high paying jobs and their local multiplier effect within its shores.
If it was a diktat from Brussels about where those institutions would be relocated to, you'd be pontificating over that.

Thrugelmir

kabayiri wrote: »

So where will I go now for my cheap hooky goods?

I like the blokes who wash the cars, but it's far short of a sustainable business model.

Round here it's also new drives and minor building works. Crews of eastern Europeans who are being well organised by UK masters. Speed of the work suggests they are paid on a completion job basis. Very efficient and high quality of work. Could say a military operation.

mayonnaise

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm pretty confident that by the time this is over we'll still have the 4 freedoms and a significant annual contribution to the EU (reduced because our economy will be reduced), and that exactly nobody will be happy with the outcome.

I'm happy with that.
Not happy with our reduced economy of course but hey ho....see my sig.

Private_Church

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Round here it's also new drives and minor building works. Crews of eastern Europeans who are being well organised by UK masters. Speed of the work suggests they are paid on a completion job basis. Very efficient and high quality of work. Could say a military operation.

Report back in 5yrs time and if the "high quality of work" stands up after a few years I'll be surprised.. I have personal experience of working with German and Swedish tradesmen and their work is excellent, Eastern Europeans quality of workmanship on the whole is dire .

Thing is Joe Public can't see what lies behind the surface and in the case of EE workers its usually on a par with the worse UK cowboy builders and won't last the test of time but as the old saying goes "Pay peanuts you get monkeys"..

Just my personal experience of working with EU nationals..............:)

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Well yeah, obviously.
Any EU country would love to have these high paying jobs and their local multiplier effect within its shores.
If it was a diktat from Brussels about where those institutions would be relocated to, you'd be pontificating over that.

Yeah. Everybody wants them. Eastern Europe think it's their turn. Western Europe think only they have the expertise. No one wants Germany to get either. I see one big punch up coming.

“In London they will be opening bottles,” said one senior EU diplomat about the EU27’s failure to make a decision.

:rotfl:

BobQ

cogito wrote: »

Why would they? They ignored government recommendations to vote remain. Not just once, but twice. First by voting to leave and second by voting for parties whose manifestos committed them to leave.

If they changed their minds about leaving, they could have voted for the LibDems.

You assume people are rationale. If you want someone to blame you will find someone.

BobQ

Joeskeppi wrote: »

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eu-referendum-muslims_uk_576e558ce4b08d2c563937ff

Journalist Ciaran Jenkins asks him: “Do you think you voted to leave the EU to stop Muslims coming to the country?”
The man replies: “To stop immigration. The movement of people in Europe, fair enough but not from Africa, Syria, Iraq or anywhere else.”
Apparently lost on the gentlemen is the fact that immigration from these countries has nothing to do with the EU.

Clearly not all people who voted Brexit are this ignorant but it only took 2% of voters to show this degree of insight to undermine our whole future.

sevenhills

""Originally Posted by cogito
If they changed their minds about leaving, they could have voted for the LibDems.
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In 2015 the Liberal Democrats had 8 seats; they now have 12 MPs, people voted for them when they thought they could win.

We have a dodgy electoral system which favours the main parties, first past the post. Had the last election been done under PR we would probably have the prospect of a stable Government now. There would be much more flexibility, with more smaller parties.

vivatifosi

Rinoa wrote: »

Yeah. Everybody wants them. Eastern Europe think it's their turn. Western Europe think only they have the expertise. No one wants Germany to get either. I see one big punch up coming.


:rotfl:

The core EU institutions are held in just a handful of countries, with the likes of Belgium and Luxembourg having by far more than their fair share of jobs. EU agency jobs tend to be more spread.

I would hope that the under represented countries with a reasonable sized sector in the field would draw the institutions. Medicines to Italy, Spain or Sweden say. Banking to a vibrant city that people want to move to, e.g. Barcelona.

kabayiri

BobQ wrote: »

Clearly not all people who voted Brexit are this ignorant but it only took 2% of voters to show this degree of insight to undermine our whole future.

Doesn't this always happen though?

I've lost count of the number of times I have heard politicians willfully mix up deficit and debt. They do it to confuse.

Re-scale a graph on the Y axis and you can change the impact tremendously. Or...how about change the time frame of a graph to suit the point you want to push.

The failing was with Team Remain. They got dragged down in to a stupid argument about words on the side of a bus. Who cares about that in the bigger scheme of things?

Also, Osborne came over as officious and arrogant in the early days of the Remain campaign, and now the slippery fish walks away as though he is blameless. I reckon he will be back. He is prime time slime minister material.