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Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)
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setmefree2 wrote: »
Finally we may see some action.
Looking forward to reading those position papers.
Is this an acknowledgement that the appearance of not being well prepared is not part of a cunning plan and they were just not well prepared?
What would we do without Politico?There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
In a wide-ranging speech during his first visit to Northern Ireland as Irish prime minister, Varadkar made several proposals to try to break the Brexit logjam.
He said a bilateral customs union could be based on one the EU currently has with Turkey. "If we have one with Turkey. Surely we can have one with the United Kingdom?" he said.
British Prime Minister Theresa May has said Britain will leave the EU's customs union when it leaves the bloc in order to pursue its own trade agreements with countries around the world.
A bilateral customs union would appear to imply that both sides would be free to strike deals with third parties, though Varadkar did not provide detail of the proposal.Varadkar also suggested that the EU may be considering compromise on its insistence that the European Court of Justice (ECJ) oversee key elements of any future relationship, such as citizens' rights to live in the United Kingdom and the oversight of regulation of sectors like aviation and nuclear power.
May's opposition to any oversight by the ECJ has been a key stumbling block in talks.
"At the moment the mechanism by which most European agreements are upheld is through the European Court of Justice and the United Kingdom has indicated it no longer wishes to be part of. So we would need to develop some other mechanism," Varadkar said.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brtiain-eu-ireland-idUKKBN1AK1220 -
Exclusive: EU migrants under age of 30 could be given 2-year visas to live and work in UK after Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/04/exclusive-eu-migrants-age-30-could-given-2-year-visas-live-work/0 -
Private_Church wrote: »Lastly people aren't "anti Europe" they are "anti EU" , Totally different concept.........
Isn't a little bit like folks in the EU saying, we're not anti-British, we just don't like Brexiteers.
Or, you worry so much about FoM (let's take control of our immigration) but there're many non-EU foreigners and a huge amount of visa overstayers.
It's not a totally different concept.EU expat working in London0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »
Who needs a mouthpiece when you can just let the Irish PM squeal every now and then.
If the UK Brexit is in anyway hard, I reckon the Irish economy will tank, and they will end up having their own hard decision to make about a future in the EU.0 -
always_sunny wrote: »...
Or, you worry so much about FoM (let's take control of our immigration) but there're many non-EU foreigners and a huge amount of visa overstayers.
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You don't understand the opposite proposition to FOM.
It's a system where you match the skills required with the potential applicants, wherever they come from.
Australia took 200+ job skills off their wanted list back in April. Do you think they did this out of spite?
No. It's because the skills they need change over time, and with changing internal economic demands.
Right now, we in the UK need midwives, as an example. We don't need more manual car washers.0 -
Right now, we in the UK need midwives, as an example. We don't need more manual car washers.
Immigrants who are prepared to wash cars for a living are willing to do all manner of work, we need that because the majority of people brought up in the UK aren't prepared to work those jobs.
Why would a midwife want to come to a country with such a poor climate and is full of people who want to keep their friends and family out?
We're not Australia, the same thing won't work for us. By trying to stop one, we're going to stop both. Just because we need midwives doesn't mean we deserve to get them.
I spoke to someone about to start their third year in medical school and he doesn't know anyone who is planning on staying in the UK now.always_sunny wrote: »Isn't a little bit like folks in the EU saying, we're not anti-British, we just don't like Brexiteers.
Or the kippers saying the remainers are not patriotic, when we are actually more patriotic. We're not talking our country down, we are talking the people who are ruining the country down.Is this an acknowledgement that the appearance of not being well prepared is not part of a cunning plan and they were just not well prepared?
I think any cunning plan disintegrated along with Theresa May's majority, which is a good thing as it was like playing chicken with a juggernaut. Now their plan appears to be to come up with a plan. They are personally pretty well prepared financially to ride it out, it's just us that has a problem. I don't expect they'll be too bothered about that, after all we asked for it.setmefree2 wrote: »
LOL
"There are a number of reasons for this - younger migrants have a longer working life ahead of them so have a higher chance of making a net positive contribution to the public finances, and they are perhaps considered to assimilate more successfully".
The number of immigrants who don't make a net positive contribution is pretty small, but this is written as if there are a large number of people who don't. Is this to patronise the kippers?It'll be interesting to see how far the EU will go with this 'third country' business.
We're either a third country or we're not. We want to be a third country, they appear to be happy to let us.Just as a trip to the US involves a tad more organisation than a trip within the EU currently does,
More organisation, more time at passport control. Some people will no longer be allowed to travel outside the UK at all.As with other aspects of Brexit, the more unduly punitive the EU decides to be with to the UK, there's an equal and opposite effect on EU citizens also.
Brexiters think everything is punitive, the EU think they are only doing what is absolutely necessary. I would put money on the EU being less delusional.0 -
There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0
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setmefree2 wrote: »
I am not sure how I feel about this sort of two speed discrimination.
Will the under 30's have to be 28 to get the full two year visa?
Will "they" have to take an intelligence test
Or a physical test
Or a language test
Getting more uncomfortable by the minute.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
Or the kippers saying the remainers are not patriotic, when we are actually more patriotic. We're not talking our country down
What do you call this then, from the same post?Immigrants who are prepared to wash cars for a living are willing to do all manner of work, we need that because the majority of people brought up in the UK aren't prepared to work those jobs.0
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