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Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

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  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »

    We now appear to be going out of our way to accelerate trade talks around the world. And actually negotiating too when previously we were somewhat reluctant.

    Maybe the penny's dropped and TM now realises a trade deal with the EU is highly unlikely. Let's hope so. :T
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    I will say one thing for the USA.

    They won't get things right initially. Nor will we.

    But IMO they have a much greater propensity to make changes when change is necessary.

    As a reformist, this suits me.

    I find the EU intransigent and often behind the curve, by comparison. That isn't good when faced with a competitive world with more dynamic competitors.

    Take trade. The whole notion of 3D printing will change our ideas on what it means to ship goods

    We already have AI on chips which allows for total customisation at the client market end. This gives you far more flexibility than some onerous standard can. Set the metrics; the protocols; and you're away.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    We now appear to be going out of our way to accelerate trade talks around the world. And actually negotiating too when previously we were somewhat reluctant.

    Maybe the penny's dropped and TM now realises a trade deal with the EU is highly unlikely. Let's hope so. :T

    I thought Liam Fox was clever the other day when he talked about more open trade kickstarting a new wave of global growth.

    He is externalising the challenge, rather than making it about us shunning the EU.
  • Rinoa wrote: »
    That's very good news. Hopefully the EU will continue to demand the unacceptable and we'll go the WTO route.

    Free at last and 100% certainty for businesses who can plan accordingly.
    Quite a few sources moot this "no deal" outcome as likely, for example here asking to prevent the possibility of gridlock at UK ports:
    The document, entitled Ready on Day One, suggests there is a real possibility that no deal will be achieved with the EU27 by the spring of 2019, and says Theresa May’s government needs to prepare for that potential outcome.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/25/tory-mps-call-for-action-to-avert-post-brexit-ports-gridlock
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,972 Forumite
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    As far as I can tell, we were part of the EU when those standards were defined and were a part of the discussion. Now we're in a new discussion with a country that has much lower standards again, and still have some say in the matter. Not much, because they've got all the cards too, so we'll no doubt need to be careful to avoid dodgy food products in the future.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-eu-negotiator-europe-euratom-airline-safety-negotiations-theresa-may-worse-anyone-guessed-a7858586.html

    Claims for an EU negotiator that we've grossly understimated the complexity of just about everything.
  • Herzlos wrote: »
    As far as I can tell, we were part of the EU when those standards were defined and were a part of the discussion. Now we're in a new discussion with a country that has much lower standards again, and still have some say in the matter. Not much, because they've got all the cards too, so we'll no doubt need to be careful to avoid dodgy food products in the future.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-eu-negotiator-europe-euratom-airline-safety-negotiations-theresa-may-worse-anyone-guessed-a7858586.html

    Claims for an EU negotiator that we've grossly understimated the complexity of just about everything.
    Ahem.
    An opinion piece.
    Good to see that opinion is fine when it suits your agenda. ;)

    Would this be the same Steve Bullock that was an advisor to "Red" Ken Livingstone?
    Former mayor of Lewisham and he of the Milwall controversy?
    Just asking after seeing the footnote:
    Steve Bullock worked at the UK Representation to the EU from 2010-2014 where he negotiated several EU regulations for the UK in European Council working groups. He has also worked for the European Commission and the Department for International Development’s Europe Department, and now works with The UK in a Changing Europe
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    No chlorinated American chicken can rival the sheer existential horror of a Scotch egg

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    Not to mention haggis.....:o


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/24/no-chlorinated-american-chicken-can-rival-sheer-existential/
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,972 Forumite
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    Ahem.
    An opinion piece.
    Good to see that opinion is fine when it suits your agenda. ;)

    I haven't tried to shoot down the same source when it disagreed with me. I think the points made are valid or do you disagree?
    Would this be the same Steve Bullock that was an advisor to "Red" Ken Livingstone?
    No idea. However, he seems to have enough credentials and contacts here to be regarded as one of those filthy experts.
  • Herzlos
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    setmefree2 wrote: »

    I love the occasional scotch egg, especially from a chicken that's been look after.

    Haggis too.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    City of London Experiencing Jobs Boom
    Unreported by the mainstream media, but fortunately picked up by our friends at Guido Fawkes, comes good news from the City of London. Also known as the Square Mile, it is the Wall Street of Britain. The survey is by City Index.
    Job openings in the City were 17% higher in June 2017 compared to the same period last year. This shows that business confidence has not only survived our disastrously indecisive election, but also the thunderingly decisive vote for Brexit. Where are all the experts now? The ones who predicted the end of humanity if we left the EU. Hiding.

    https://thezreview.com/2017/07/24/city-london-experiencing-jobs-boom/
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