Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

Even heart surgeons need to keep up to date, the heart surgery we perform today are not the same performed in the 70's.

However you're highlighting the issue with these older folks going for brexit, they're somehow stuck in the past. There's no British Empire anymore, the UK is not as domineering as it was, etc

Oh of course, silly me.
It's not really that remainers are the ones stuck in the past is it?
Determined to cling to what they can of the EU and bury their faces somewhere warm and comfortable instead of looking out to the rest of the big, wide world with imagination.
No, of course not.
The empire of the past you are talking of must be the EU because those wanting Brexit have more ambition and world vision than any introverted "we-must-stay-in-the-EU"-er who, as it turns out, are the real "ones stuck in the past".

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

I thought everyone was sick of experts?

Then I know a good joiner who would love the chance to perform heart surgery if and when you need it!

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Then I know a good joiner who would love the chance to perform heart surgery if and when you need it!

I've always been perfectly happy listening to advice from experts.

I could do with some actual joinery work though, know any heart surgeons with some free time?

always_sunny

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Oh of course, silly me.
It's not really that remainers are the ones stuck in the past is it?
Determined to cling to what they can of the EU and bury their faces somewhere warm and comfortable instead of looking out to the rest of the big, wide world with imagination.
No, of course not.
The empire of the past you are talking of must be the EU because those wanting Brexit have more ambition and world vision than any introverted "we-must-stay-in-the-EU" who, as it turns out, are the real "ones stuck in the past".

What are those ambitions?
Remainers have gone [over and over] through and explaining the same, being in the EU doesn't really prevent the UK to do business outside.
But the choice has been made, all the UK can do now is keep moving forward but do not expect a walk in the park.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

I've always been perfectly happy listening to advice from experts.

I could do with some actual joinery work though, know any heart surgeons with some free time?

Not that would do joinery work as anything other than a hobby.
They know when a professional with experience is needed if you do not.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Not that would do joinery work as anything other than a hobby.
They know when a professional with experience is needed if you do not.

I never said I didn't.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

What are those ambitions?
Remainers have gone [over and over] through and explaining the same, being in the EU doesn't really prevent the UK to do business outside.
But the choice has been made, all the UK can do now is keep moving forward but do not expect a walk in the park.

Oh please, most of this thread has been about Brexit ambitions.

always_sunny

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Oh please, most of this thread has been about Brexit ambitions.

Most of this thread has been about posting Brexit article form online news about how good and gold this Brexit is going to be from you, Conrad and few others. Fair enuff.

Reality though is that 52% of voters backed this Brexit so 48% did not. The country is also made up of 15%~ foreigners who were not allowed to vote and others who didn't vote at all.

I know the likes of you and others keep posting these articles but in the real world so far, Brexit has caused the currency to fall (yay good for export), inflation to rise (yay it's still low compared to the 70's) and the country not really having a positive outlook.

Brexit is going to bring disagreement for years to come and to seize opportunities there must be consensus otherwise the country will continue to make one step forward and two back. Simple as that. Remainer (or whoever in this country who don't believe in Brexit) will continue to scrutinise and possibly even sabotage Leavers to prove them wrong in a exhausting manner pretty much the same as Brexiteers were doing before.

That, and also Brexiteers are now expected to deliver because people in this country do not want to see their quality of life impacted whilst this exercise takes place.

A year after the vote took place, people in the UK are not better off now that they were before and it looks like it'll take years before there's a prospect of the situation to improve.

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Determined to cling to what they can of the EU and bury their faces somewhere warm and comfortable instead of looking out to the rest of the big, wide world with imagination.

The Leave vote was based on a desire to look out to the rest of the big wide world with imagination? :rotfl:

A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

Most of this thread has been about posting Brexit article form online news about how good and gold this Brexit is going to be from you, Conrad and few others. Fair enuff.
On my part only in response to doom-mongering pro-EU protagonists like yourself as a balance against negativity.

Reality though is that 52% of voters backed this Brexit so 48% did not. The country is also made up of 15%~ foreigners who were not allowed to vote and others who didn't vote at all.
You think non-nationals or those with no ties to the UK (like your "foreigners") should have been allowed a vote? Why stop there; why not let anyone who wanted to vote from anywhere on earth - so you could get the answer YOU want?
As at is, almost 1.3 million more voted to leave than voted to remain.
I know the likes of you (? you know absolutely nothing about me other that what I choose to show in these forums, just as I know nothing about you) and others keep posting these articles (as said before, as a balance against overwhelming negativity espoused by pro-EU remainers ) but in the real world so far, Brexit has caused the currency to fall (yay good for export, tourism, and balance of payments ), inflation to rise (yay it's still low compared to the 70's No, it is low compared to by far most of the past 50+ years) and SOME OF the country not really having a positive outlook.

Brexit is going to bring disagreement for years to come and to seize opportunities there must be consensus otherwise the country will continue to make one step forward and two back. Simple as that. Remainer (or whoever in this country who don't believe in Brexit) will continue to scrutinise and possibly even sabotage Leavers to prove them wrong in a exhausting manner pretty much the same as Brexiteers were doing before.

That, and also Brexiteers are now expected to deliver because people in this country do not want to see their quality of life impacted whilst this exercise takes place.

A year after the vote took place, people in the UK are not better off now that they were before and it looks like it'll take years before there's a prospect of the situation to improve.

*Yawn* some responses highlighted in red before boredom set in.
So for the rest see post 1272 (my thanks to kabayiri):

kabayiri wrote: »

Only the ones who lack vision and drive.

If you can't see opportunities beyond the EU, then it isn't my fault.

Growth outside the EU will outstrip that inside for the next generation. That's just the way it is.

You best get used to it.