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Neighbour Issues driving me NUTS.

casseus
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Been Having issues with a neighbour now for a long period.
2 1/2yrs ago this person moved into ground floor flat in a block of flats next to my 3 bed house. From the outset he made it known he didn't like the area, he didn't like us, and didn't like children and was only there due to our HA placing him there. Fair enough so we left him well alone and told our children to do the same and stayed out his way.
From the outset when, weve and other neighbours I am friendly with, have had false allegations made against us, Weve had police turn up late at night on calls proved to be false. It got to the point the PCSO for my area was going back and forth both of us to try and resolve issues.
I made the point of saying to the PCSO how can you resolve issues that don't exist but for only the mind of the person making these allegations and that he is using the police the council and HA as weapons to cause harassment, alarm and distress.
My HA completely Mishandled the situation putting the blame squarely on me and my other neighbours I am friendly with, issues premature breach of tenancy notices and contracts to behave and limiting my use of my own rented property!. I begged and begged HA to use a mediation service to resolve this, they agreed to and we were talking with them, He initially would speak with them on the phone but then started to not answer them or their letters, when they sent him a letter stating they were advising the HA to close the case all of a sudden he wanted to use the mediation service, when we were both asked do we want to resolve this in a peaceful controlled and managed environment he told them he didn't want it resolved at all he wanted it to remain as is. This spoke Volumes to the Mediation service who told us they got the impression he this was all intentional on his part. The mediation service quickly clocked on he just wanted a move to another area.
After several more weeks and me pleading with the HA and clearing my name via the ombudsmans involvement, HE was told to pipe down and that he will not be moved and the HA was taking no further actions to either party this was late 2016.
Now we come to this year and yet again he has called police on us 3 times making false accusations. Weve reported him to out HA from the get go now and not leave it in the hopes he will go away, The HA after coming off looking the wrong ones last time has told us that they wont be taking any action on what allegations he has made unless police contact them with details of evidence we have done wrong, our HA has also put this in writing to us to put our minds at ease. HE is now stepping things up and being verbally abusive to my kids and ourselves and neighbours, we record him, but police are reluctant to arrest him and are just giving out a police caution to and fine him with public order offensives.
HA say they will deal with him but after they way they treated us we have no confidence they will get it right and finally get rid of this person.
What if anything can we do?
2 1/2yrs ago this person moved into ground floor flat in a block of flats next to my 3 bed house. From the outset he made it known he didn't like the area, he didn't like us, and didn't like children and was only there due to our HA placing him there. Fair enough so we left him well alone and told our children to do the same and stayed out his way.
From the outset when, weve and other neighbours I am friendly with, have had false allegations made against us, Weve had police turn up late at night on calls proved to be false. It got to the point the PCSO for my area was going back and forth both of us to try and resolve issues.
I made the point of saying to the PCSO how can you resolve issues that don't exist but for only the mind of the person making these allegations and that he is using the police the council and HA as weapons to cause harassment, alarm and distress.
My HA completely Mishandled the situation putting the blame squarely on me and my other neighbours I am friendly with, issues premature breach of tenancy notices and contracts to behave and limiting my use of my own rented property!. I begged and begged HA to use a mediation service to resolve this, they agreed to and we were talking with them, He initially would speak with them on the phone but then started to not answer them or their letters, when they sent him a letter stating they were advising the HA to close the case all of a sudden he wanted to use the mediation service, when we were both asked do we want to resolve this in a peaceful controlled and managed environment he told them he didn't want it resolved at all he wanted it to remain as is. This spoke Volumes to the Mediation service who told us they got the impression he this was all intentional on his part. The mediation service quickly clocked on he just wanted a move to another area.
After several more weeks and me pleading with the HA and clearing my name via the ombudsmans involvement, HE was told to pipe down and that he will not be moved and the HA was taking no further actions to either party this was late 2016.
Now we come to this year and yet again he has called police on us 3 times making false accusations. Weve reported him to out HA from the get go now and not leave it in the hopes he will go away, The HA after coming off looking the wrong ones last time has told us that they wont be taking any action on what allegations he has made unless police contact them with details of evidence we have done wrong, our HA has also put this in writing to us to put our minds at ease. HE is now stepping things up and being verbally abusive to my kids and ourselves and neighbours, we record him, but police are reluctant to arrest him and are just giving out a police caution to and fine him with public order offensives.
HA say they will deal with him but after they way they treated us we have no confidence they will get it right and finally get rid of this person.
What if anything can we do?
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Looks like the HA are setting themselves up for a serious complaint against them to the ombudsman.
Have you involved your local Councillor or MP?. How about involving your local press as well?. The HA will not like the adverse publicity they are getting as it may affect funding from the local council.Never Knowingly Understood.
Member #1 of £1,000 challenge - £13.74/ £1000 (that's 1.374%)
3-6 month EF £0/£3600 (that's 0 days worth)0 -
Looks like the HA are setting themselves up for a serious complaint against them to the ombudsman.
Have you involved your local Councillor or MP?. How about involving your local press as well?. The HA will not like the adverse publicity they are getting as it may affect funding from the local council.
I'll give him another call and ask for some back up. Local press don't care either called them the last time not interested.0 -
The HA can't do anything other than give him what he wants. Which would mean his behaviour would be being rewarded. so they can't move him.
I think you need to keep the pressure up on the police for them to address the issue. It sounds like you need to meet with a more senior police officer, and then complain to your local police commissioner if nothing gets done.
Are you keeping a file on all the incidents and responses from HA/Police/etc? If not, try to start a file and complete it with as much as you can from memory, and then log everything as it happens.
The next step is to get all the neighbours together and arrange a counter-campaign. I wouldn't call the police on him unless he does something illegal, because you would be wasting their time.
But there are lots of imaginative things you could do to screw his life up. Making a list of these (in your head) would perhaps provide some light relief.
Sounds a bad situation, but I've heard of worse. Have you talked to him about why he wants to move? Is there some reasonable reason like wanting to be near his friends or family? Could you help him get what he want by more reasonable means?The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.0 -
Have you been able to get to the root of why this neighbour seems to think that pretending the neighbours (ie yourselves) are up to all sorts that you aren't in actual fact would get him transferred?
What was the response from the HA when you told them that he is only doing all this to try and get them to transfer him? and what are his chances of getting this transfer he wants?0 -
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And people wonder why the police are so under resourced - this kind of thing really does boil my p1ss.
After x amount of false complaints the police should have him for wasting police time. Some people think that the police are some sort of family / anger / mediation management service for their own twisted ends.
I think your neighbour needs a doctor, hes not right in the head!0 -
report him for harassment and get an order against him?0
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The HA could simply evict him, so for them to say that they can't do anything is rubbish.
They might at least threaten to which could stop him.0 -
You should follow the formal complaint process with the HA. Carefully, exactly. It should be on their website - e.g.
http://www.lqgroup.org.uk/comments-and-complaints/make-a-complaint
You've probably supplied all such info, but perhaps not according to their process: Ensure you comply with their process - I bet he does...0 -
I've spoken with a few people who know him they tell me it's a habit of him doing this when he doesn't get what he wants council apparently don't want him on their books because they have moved him twice now and continued to complain and cause distress. So no wonder they dont want anything to do with him when his name pops up apparently he isn't allowed to phone them due to his abuse of staff over the phone and can only write. I fired an email and digital copy of my complaints and incident logs and police log numbers off to my local inspector I'm hoping they can put pressure on HA to do something. I've also checked his Facebook account and he calling our HA estate the costa dell hell and make number of defamatory statements regarding my family and my neighbours and is completely lets fictional about how this place is apparently there was a drug raid on my home last week according to his FB account, I must have missed that one or had been out as I am anti drugs and he knows it. So I've screen shot it all and sent that off too to police and HA0
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