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Neighbour Issues driving me NUTS.
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As above, I thought that problem tenants could be evicted , with no obligation to rehouse him as he has no children, so why are the HA and previously, council humouring him ?...A question worth asking.0
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Normally police won't keep giving cautions for the same/similar offence, and with harassment there are escalating steps they take, so you may need to keep reporting so that they are able to progress from caution to a formal charge.
You can also ensure that you report each and every incident to the HA. I'd suggest doing so in writing (keeping a copy)
Each time you report, specifically state that you feel his actions amount to harassment (or threats, as appropriate).
Read your tenancy agreement and see what it says about behaviour towards other residents and explicitly reference that (e.g. "I / We believe that X's actions are in breach of s.xx of the tenancy agreement with HA, which states """ Add in the fact thst this is a repeating issue. e.g. " this is the 4th/5th/6th [as appropriate] time since [date] that neighbour has harassed us in this way and then ask what steps the HA is taking to prevent the harassment / anti-social behaviour continuing".
With the police, explicitly ask them to deal with the matter as harassment and to take steps towards charging him and/or seeking a restraining order.All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)0 -
BHE is now stepping things up and being verbally abusive to my kids and ourselves and neighbours, we record him, but police are reluctant to arrest him and are just giving out a police caution to and fine him with public order offensives.
Warning - long post.
Firstly, understand that there are certain arrest necessities needed before an officer can arrest a person.
Officers MUST consider if it is the correct course of action or if there is a better way the alleged offence can be dealt with.
In your case, the officer has concluded that a police caution and Penalty Notice for Disorder (a.k.a. PND, a.k.a. a fine) was the most appropriate (for a s5 public order offence). I highly doubt there was sufficient necessity to arrest and it is highly likely that if the officer could have arrested him, there would have been exactly the same outcome or maybe less.
As someone has said, the more this continues, the more the response will escalate. Next time, it is likely to go to magistrate court.
Knowing this, as well as the fact that police are severly overstretched to the point of dangerous levels, I would hope that you would not think the police are doing nothing because they can't be arsed. Stuff like what is happening to you, while it is horrible to live through, is waaaaaay down low on the police's list of things to do. Down there with anti-social kids and off-road bikers. Any officer tasked with dealing with your nuissance neighbour will also have four or five other similar tasks to deal with as well as the energency calls, the domestics, the missing children etc etc.
Secondly, if he is posting things on a public forum which he knows to be false, then that is classed as malicious communications which is an offence the poice can deal with and not hard to prove. I note you have screenshot these comments. Report this to the police and they can deal with that.
As he has already been given a caution, the next step could be magistrate court. If he is found guilty, then it is possible the CPS could apply a Criminal Behaviour Order or a restraining order (non-molestation order) which would compell him to cease this behaviour.
This is unlikely though as it is usually given to persistant and repeat offenders. At this time, your neighbour is not at that level in the eyes of the courts.
To get to this level, you, and your neighbours need to report any public order, threats, harassment and malicious communications and then let the police do their job.
With the HA, you need to keep reporting this neighbour in writing and requesting all responses in writing. If they are not satisfactory, then escalate through their complaints procedure. If that is not satisfactory, then escalate to the ombudsman.
Before you start making complaints, familiarise your self with the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014. Specifically, Part 2 and Part 6 s104. If you can throw this kind of information at the police, the HA AND the council ASB team and request a review of their response to your complaint, then it may spur them all in to action. However, for this to happen, there must be complaints of anti-social behaviour made against him by you and others in the community.
Finally, remember that this stuff takes a lot of time to resolve. He may havemental health problems. He may be a complete jack-!!! and may never change. Be patient. Keep calm and keep reporting.0 -
For a court to evict someone there has to be enough evidence of serious problems. A HA will only try for eviction if they have a good chance of getting it as it costs them money. I've been told 2.5k.As above, I thought that problem tenants could be evicted , with no obligation to rehouse him as he has no children, so why are the HA and previously, council humouring him ?...A question worth asking.
I believe many HAs prefer not to evict problem tenants as they consider housing difficult people part of their role which is very noble but is at the expense of the problem tenants neighbours.0 -
If someone posted that kind of garbage on facebook I would be calling my attorney.I've spoken with a few people who know him they tell me it's a habit of him doing this when he doesn't get what he wants council apparently don't want him on their books because they have moved him twice now and continued to complain and cause distress. So no wonder they dont want anything to do with him when his name pops up apparently he isn't allowed to phone them due to his abuse of staff over the phone and can only write. I fired an email and digital copy of my complaints and incident logs and police log numbers off to my local inspector I'm hoping they can put pressure on HA to do something. I've also checked his Facebook account and he calling our HA estate the costa dell hell and make number of defamatory statements regarding my family and my neighbours and is completely lets fictional about how this place is apparently there was a drug raid on my home last week according to his FB account, I must have missed that one or had been out as I am anti drugs and he knows it. So I've screen shot it all and sent that off too to police and HA0
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