Creators Edition

kwikbreaks

Had you said you work in the NHS and know exactly what happened I may have had some respect for your views. As it is I'm still unsure of which industry you represent. I did see mention of being a Kapersky reseller so does that mean you work in PC World?

Regardless of the answer there is credible information that XP wasn't the opsys that got most infections so I'm unsure why you keep banging on about it.

Back versions of operating systems and especially old versions of IE are common or at least used to be in the days when I was an IT contractor because systems got developed and wouldn't run on later software. The systems couldn't just be junked and as often as not were so badly written that updating would take as long as rewriting and managers took the cheap option of retaining some machines just to keep them running. The NHS are certainly not alone in that.

angryparcel

kwikbreaks wrote: »

Had you said you work in the NHS and know exactly what happened I may have had some respect for your views. As it is I'm still unsure of which industry you represent. I did see mention of being a Kapersky reseller so does that mean you work in PC World?

Regardless of the answer there is credible information that XP wasn't the opsys that got most infections so I'm unsure why you keep banging on about it.

Back versions of operating systems and especially old versions of IE are common or at least used to be in the days when I was an IT contractor because systems got developed and wouldn't run on later software. The systems couldn't just be junked and as often as not were so badly written that updating would take as long as rewriting and managers took the cheap option of retaining some machines just to keep them running. The NHS are certainly not alone in that.

I run my own IT business which i have ran for the last 15 years, regardless the Gov. chose to stop paying MS for continued support which left their system wide open.

kwikbreaks

Ah - so an eBay seller then or maybe an IT contractor as I once was. You still have no inside info on the NHS systems though so I fail to see how you can point to XP unless you are naive enough to believe all their machines run XP.

angryparcel

kwikbreaks wrote: »

Ah - so an eBay seller then or maybe an IT contractor as I once was. You still have no inside info on the NHS systems though so I fail to see how you can point to XP unless you are naive enough to believe all their machines run XP.

No dont sell on ebay, I offer IT support and repair PC systems. I have worked on local NHS trust systems

kwikbreaks

Thanks. I can now put you on ignore with a perfectly clear conscience.

RumRat

angryparcel wrote: »

yes i do, but the fact is info like this would be passed to their partners as so far nothing. I have used Kaspersky from day 1 and for the last 8 years i have been a reseller partner.

Read the report i linked too it is XP and 8 that were affected

You are obviously not held in the regard you think you are.
The final nail in the coffin of your credibility is the fact that you actually linked to a Daily Mail article....:rotfl:
Good night Vienna....

Sicard

The update has fixed the restore points not working which were !!!!!!ed up by the Autumn update.

spud17

I've probably done 15+ installs/upgrades of the various Win 10 versions across a range of pcs and have always been a proponent.

Over a few days I'd had some updates/restarts which resulted in a broken ethernet driver.
I couldn't uninstall to let it re-install, couldn't re-install over existing because needed to uninstall, a Catch22 situation.
I also tried uninstalling the driver using Revo uninstaller.

So using WiFi, I allowed the Creators update which stalled part way through, I left it for hours, no movement.
I downloaded the .iso, created a Rufus usb and tried an in-place update from the usb.
It still stalled.
No problem, I'll do a clean install.
The clean install of Creators would hang, very similar to some of the angry threads on Microsoft.
I've now re-installed ver. 1607, which installed in minutes and everything works again.

Jivesinger

spud17 wrote: »

I've probably done 15+ installs/upgrades of the various Win 10 versions across a range of pcs and have always been a proponent.

Over a few days I'd had some updates/restarts which resulted in a broken ethernet driver.

Broadcom driver, by any chance?

spud17

Jivesinger wrote: »

Broadcom driver, by any chance?

I'd seen the reports of problems with Broadcom Bluetooth drivers, but not for Broadcom 440x 10/100 ethernet drivers.*
Microsoft advice is to not manually update, fair enough, but it was an auto update which did for me originally.:)

*edit: now found https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking/windows-10-creators-update-broke-my-lan-port/efad767b-b40a-469b-a815-9bff48dcd3c4

Mine is a Dell 6400, similar age/spec to some of those in the link below

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/problems-with-creators-update/d5117f36-b66f-4590-b2f3-a64b92445385?rtAction=1492183836572