Problems with a UK website

angryparcel

Hermione_Granger wrote: »

Even though it has a .co.uk web address, when will people realise that if a website has:

Extremely poor use of the English language,
No contact phone number,
No company address,
No company number,
No VAT number,
Terms and conditions that are illegal in the UK,
Prices that are far lower than any reputable seller in the UK,

then there is obviously something not quite right with that seller.

No contact phone number, - Not Needed
No company number - not needed unless a ltd company
No VAT number - not needed unless VAT registered

by also if you notice all the links Terms, privacy, contact etc. all direct to a different domain and the terms start with 'Online Store respects you as a valuable customer and continues to set the standards in customer satisfaction.' which should actually mention the company name (which is not mentioned anywhere in the terms).
they also mention SSL, but if you go through order process none of the pages use SSL

teddysmum

When considering buying from an unknown company, even from Amazon's marketplace ,I look up the address on Google Street.


The last time I did this was when buying some dry eye gel for my dog. A number of the places were private houses or offices in tatty buildings, so I chose a chemist's shop which is clearly shown to be operating as such. (Very good purchase and I've used them again).

angryparcel

teddysmum wrote: »

When considering buying from an unknown company, even from Amazon's marketplace ,I look up the address on Google Street.

Very true, but this site has no address listed, which would have turned me away without purchasing.

daytona0

angryparcel wrote: »

well just looking at the prices and the email in the contact page i can tell they are fake.
the email is fake and points to a windfarm company in London.

you could report the site owners to trading standards as the domain is registered to someone in Scotland
whois.domaintools.com/drivetekk.co.uk

Also interesting on the whois page is this part:

Name servers:
f1g1ns1.dnspod.net
f1g1ns2.dnspod.net

Now admittedly I'm not a tech head so don't fully know what Name Servers are but these crop up with a lot of these fake websites AND there is a connection with a Chinese web services company which they may be using en masse to host/register their sites?


I'm disappointed that my previous post on this thread has been ignored, as I've found a website (more are easy to find as well) which seems to be used for storing the images they use AND it contains an Excel spreadsheet with customer orders, email addresses and the fake website it was ordered from! They make quite a bit of money I have to say.....

Certainly something that a department dedicated to fighting fraud etc would be interested in!

angryparcel

daytona0 wrote: »

Now admittedly I'm not a tech head so don't fully know what Name Servers are but these crop up with a lot of these fake websites AND there is a connection with a Chinese web services company which they may be using en masse to host/register their sites?

Every website has a set of nameserver (min. 2) these are what points the website to a server, so check a nameserver and this will tell you where the website is hosted and for this one as i showed earlier is hosted in China, but run by a guy in Falkirk Scotland

angryparcel

daytona0 wrote: »

They make quite a bit of money I have to say.....

Certainly something that a department dedicated to fighting fraud etc would be interested in!

Yes they do as all people see is a designer brand name and at a 1/4 the price they should be, as the domain is registered in the UK, then Trading Standards and Customs and Excise will be very interested.

angryparcel

daytona0 wrote: »

Ah! Thanks.

That f1g1ns1.dnspod.net nameserver comes up on a lot of these fake goods websites...

In fact, I seem to have found a gem of a website which has order details (currency, amount, customer email and fake website). They've made a tidy sum in the last few days over about 90+ websites!

yes, but the main part is dnspod.net

whois.domaintools.com/dnspod.net

and the word Chinanet which is the chinese state run internet service and one of the few places Spamcop will not file spam reports too as they take no notice of them

teddysmum

angryparcel wrote: »

Very true, but this site has no address listed, which would have turned me away without purchasing.

It would have put me off too, but I'm even suspicious of Amazon sellers; hence the Google check.

angryparcel

teddysmum wrote: »

It would have put me off too, but I'm even suspicious of Amazon sellers; hence the Google check.

I always check an amazon sellers details and where they are from.
even check can be clean, but still dodgy seller. last year i purchased a pair of duracell batteries for my camera from an amazon seller as my usual source was waiting for stock. These were roughly the same price as i normally pay, but when they arrived they were an old design, but current date stamps, but the image on amazon was the current design, so contacted seller and was told they were fine and genuine, but i still had doubts, so sent pics to duracell along with the serial numbers, they replied saying they suspect they may be fake and asked me to send them to them, which i did and i informed amazon of this and straight away amazon refunded me, and true enough they were fake, when i passed a copy of the report to amazon they immediate took the seller offline