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  • angryparcel
    angryparcel Posts: 926 Forumite
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    Disagreeing with someone is not attacking them. And likewise, if you have a problem with the responses here, you're free to not read any of them.


    As for the bit in bold, again it shows how little you understand.

    The explanatory notes for the CRA provides:


    Perhaps you should tell the lawmakers they got it wrong because (according to you) it depends on who is named on the paperwork and there is no difference when it comes to consumers & traders purchasing computer equipment.

    yes notice the bold bit
    The other main restriction on who is a consumer is that a consumer must be acting wholly or mainly outside their trade, business, craft or profession. This means, for example, that a person who buys a kettle for their home, works from home one day a week and uses it on the days when working from home would still be a consumer. Conversely a sole trader that operates from a private dwelling who buys a printer of which 95% of the use is for the purposes of the business, is not likely to be held to be a consumer
    you need to learn the difference between a Sole Trader and a Limited Company.
  • shaun_from_Africa
    shaun_from_Africa Posts: 12,858 Forumite
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    edited 27 May 2017 at 3:38PM
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    you need to learn the difference between a Sole Trader and a Limited Company.
    As far as the CRA are concerned, there is no difference simply because neither a sole trader or a limited company is a consumer.

    Here's another question for you.
    If you only want replies that agree with your opinions and you think anything else is incorrect, why did you bother posting in the first place?
    It would have been far simpler to have a conversation with yourself.
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,863 Forumite
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    yes notice the bold bit

    you need to learn the difference between a Sole Trader and a Limited Company.

    The reason it says sole trader is because a limted company can never be a consumer.

    I selectively quoted to show that it really depends on how you use the goods rather than what you held yourself out to be. But heres the paragraph in full.
    36.Another key definition is the definition of “consumer”. Firstly, a consumer must be an “individual” (that is, a natural person) – the Act’s protection for consumers does not apply to small businesses or legally incorporated organisations (e.g. companies formed by groups of residents). If a group of consumers contracts for goods, services or digital content, they are not left without protection. For example if one consumer makes all the arrangements for a group to go to the theatre or to go on holiday, depending on the circumstances, each member of the group may be able to enforce their rights or the person who made the arrangements may have to enforce the rights on behalf of the group.

    The other main restriction on who is a consumer is that a consumer must be acting wholly or mainly outside their trade, business, craft or profession. This means, for example, that a person who buys a kettle for their home, works from home one day a week and uses it on the days when working from home would still be a consumer. Conversely a sole trader that operates from a private dwelling who buys a printer of which 95% of the use is for the purposes of the business, is not likely to be held to be a consumer (and therefore the rights in this Part will not protect that sole trader but they would have to look to other legislation. For example, if the sole trader were buying goods, they would have to look to the SGA for protections about the quality of the goods).
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • angryparcel
    angryparcel Posts: 926 Forumite
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    As far as the CRA are concerned, there is no difference simply because neither a sole trader or a limited company is a consumer.

    Here's another question for you.
    If you only want replies that agree with your opinions and you think anything else is incorrect, why did you bother posting in the first place?
    It would have been far simpler to have a conversation with yourself.
    That quote from CRA mentions Sole Trader, which is 100% different to a Limited Company. As a Sole Trader you are the business but Limited Company you are an Employee. so anything purchased to use in a Limited company must be purchased by the Ltd or rented to the Ltd.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    That quote from CRA mentions Sole Trader, which is 100% different to a Limited Company. As a Sole Trader you are the business but Limited Company you are an Employee. so anything purchased to use in a Limited company must be purchased by the Ltd or rented to the Ltd.
    Again, you need to speak to your accountant because this isn't actually correct. Directors have different rights and responsibilities than employees and are classed differently.
  • angryparcel
    angryparcel Posts: 926 Forumite
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Again, you need to speak to your accountant because this isn't actually correct. Directors have different rights and responsibilities than employees and are classed differently.
    But still a director is an employee of the Ltd Company.
    anyway i cant do anything until the 14 days is up
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,863 Forumite
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    But still a director is an employee of the Ltd Company.
    anyway i cant do anything until the 14 days is up

    A director can be an employee - its not automatic though (not all directors will be employees).
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • George_Michael
    George_Michael Posts: 4,251 Forumite
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    DavidP24 wrote: »
    More Blah Blah Blah

    I will make it easy for you unsubscribing to this nonsense.


    As you appear to know nothing about consumer rights, that's probably a very wise decision.
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,181 Forumite
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    That quote from CRA mentions Sole Trader, which is 100% different to a Limited Company.

    100% different? I don't think so.

    Both a sole trader and a limited company are different types of business.
  • angryparcel
    angryparcel Posts: 926 Forumite
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    wealdroam wrote: »
    100% different? I don't think so.

    Both a sole trader and a limited company are different types of business.
    a Sole Trader - you are the business and liable for all accounts and debts
    a Limited Company is set up with directors and you are just an employee and only liable for your company shares
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