Speeding up iPhone4s

edited 6 August 2017 at 11:17PM in Mobiles
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edited 6 August 2017 at 11:17PM in Mobiles
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  • AndyPKAndyPK Forumite
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    I know what you mean, It is funny that a phone that use to be quick, now runs slow. Too much of a coincidence.

    My 4 was slow running IOS6.
    I upgraded it to IOS7 a few weeks ago, but haven't really used it since.
  • DigForVictoryDigForVictory Forumite
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    My iPhone 4 is my backup phone & I'll not be updating it. The apps I need it to run aren't that iOS sensitive. (I love online banking but if in a backup situation, I prefer the new security!)

    Colleagues who updated their older iPhones are also grousing a tad - I suspect you're right & that the iOS is gradually expanding.
  • SystemSystem Forumite
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    I'm afraid its a natural side effect of all computing devices whether its mobile phones, laptops, or desktops in that some devices will run slower the older the device and the newer the software.

    Apple control the hardware and software more tightly than other companies to get the maximum performance with security but its not always perfect. Also app developers will do the same to their own apps which can causes issues.

    Doing a complete factory reset of the device is the only option you have and jailbreaking will not help you. I'm afraid the person who owns the iphone 4 will need to consider upgrading to a iphone SE whether thats brand new or second hand.
  • ChinoChino Forumite
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    DavidP24 wrote: »
    I think Apple is shooting itself in the foot here, they are losing a longstanding group of loyal users
    Why would you imagine that Apple has any interest in "loyal users" who persist with a device that was discontinued almost four years ago?

    The only loyal users that Apple is interested in are those that actively demonstrate their loyalty by buying a new device every one or two years.
  • AndyPKAndyPK Forumite
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    Any new device will feel nippy.


    What will it be like in 6 months though?
    Ask someone who has one
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    edited 9 May 2017 at 1:16PM
    DavidP24 wrote: »
    Personally I think it's a natural side effect of bad programming, I was a partner in a software development company and we always kept the developers on the slowest computers so that they had to "feel" the impact of their coding. This forced them to write tighter code.

    They are now looking at Android for their next purchase, some of which cost £70 to £85 and feel very nippy.

    I think Apple is shooting itself in the foot here, they are losing a longstanding group of loyal users who then turn into angry Apple haters because they feel forced out of using a device they love.

    We have already seen they create lower versions of IOS for 3 series, what they really need to do is allow users to decide what old OS version they want and/or what modules they want.

    There is clearly something IOS that is making this device load everything slowly, whatever it is, it was not needed previously and is probably not needed now.

    I respect that you use to be a partner in a software company but I have to default to Apple's decision making on what they feel is the right course and they have smart people working there.

    The iPhone 4s is nearly 6 year old tech which is a good run for any smartphone and maybe some other people are getting a good run out of their iPhone 4s to this day.

    Its good that android is out there that can give a price point of £70 for a phone and more power to people who need that price point. Apple as a company does not see any benefit to being in that market and tailoring their phone hardware or software to suit whatever the customer wants. I can't say if that will harm Apple but they seem to being do ok as a company and as I said android is out there for the people that need cheaper phones or to be able to control every setting of their phone.
  • SystemSystem Forumite
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    DavidP24 wrote: »
    Oh just a simple adage, it is a hundred times harder to win back a customer that you lost than winning a new customer.

    Also the simple fact that one customer is no longer one customer, they have the power of their social circle.

    The fact is that Apple has done this before, by not valuing customers (regardless of whether they are buying new phones this financial quarter, they are showing arrogance and disdain for the people who trusted and invested in them.

    Apple has around 1/6th of the unit shipments of Android, that is all lost potential and if they are prepared to lose previous customers things can only get worse.

    For me a customer is a valued customer, no matter when they bought or whether they buy again, because reputation is important to be.

    The term Apple fanboy exists because for many people, the defence of such poor business practices is unconscionable, not just forcing customers out but the restrictive practices.

    I am sure Apple Execs will lose no sleep but I have seen Apple go bust before, it seemed impossible a few years before, but again it was caused by these practices.

    A business can't capture every potential customer out there and humans by nature have different wants and needs so rather than chase it all a company should stay focus on what they believe in. Currently Apple have 72% of the globe smartphone profits however no one can predict the future and what beholds any company, if a company is smart they will adjust to the changing tech and if not they will no longer be relevant like Nokia and blackberry.

    Currently no other smart phone company out there offer anything different that the iPhone does not already offer except if you want a smart phone under £350.
  • edited 10 May 2017 at 9:23AM
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    edited 10 May 2017 at 9:23AM
    What is common across all Apple markets is getting customers to pay over the top and what some have called a "grab your ankles" aspect.

    I hadn't a clue what that term meant, but having googled it on my boring MSE Android I got educated ...................:eek:

    I agree Apple to many pilgrims is like a religion...........

    completely irrational and overrated.


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  • gycraig_2gycraig_2 Forumite
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    DavidP24 wrote: »
    Clearly Apple has a values problem.

    I have to take your 72% of smartphone profits with a pinch of salt.

    Google Android holds 81.7% of the market and Apple has 17.9%

    To suggest that there is no profit potential is that market share of 81.7% is just folly

    If you look at PC Motherboards, there are products starting at around £30 but you could pay hundreds of pounds, you will see manufacturers winning customers at the low end and gaining brand loyalty.

    Apple ignores that low end and is foolish for doing so, last quarter they missed out on 352,000 units and whilst they have finally increased their market share a tiny bit, many put it down to the problems that Samsung have faced with their battery problems.

    I love some of the design aspects of Apple, but I also find some of their software dire. They did not even have copy and paste for years on IOS. What is common across all Apple markets is getting customers to pay over the top and what some have called a "grab your ankles" aspect.

    For me it is about business, it is foolish to ignore a market that you can benefit from, whether it be the low end or a customer who was loyal and paid over the odds for an Apple iPhone.

    Yes android has the vast majority of the market when it comes to units. However that Is spread across basically every other brand and is often at a lower price point.

    Comparing market share is pointless and 10 Alcatel pops could be the same profit as one iPhone 6 for instance.

    The fact people are slating apples business model is just hilarious they blatantly aren't struggling for cash and despite some underhanded tactics have people eating out of the palm of there hands.

    On topic though try jailbreaking it and removing all languages except English used to work a treat.
    Factory reset and language removal probably have it running like new.
  • SystemSystem Forumite
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    DavidP24 wrote: »
    Clearly Apple has a values problem.

    I have to take your 72% of smartphone profits with a pinch of salt.

    Google Android holds 81.7% of the market and Apple has 17.9%

    To suggest that there is no profit potential is that market share of 81.7% is just folly

    If you look at PC Motherboards, there are products starting at around £30 but you could pay hundreds of pounds, you will see manufacturers winning customers at the low end and gaining brand loyalty.

    Apple ignores that low end and is foolish for doing so, last quarter they missed out on 352,000 units and whilst they have finally increased their market share a tiny bit, many put it down to the problems that Samsung have faced with their battery problems.

    I love some of the design aspects of Apple, but I also find some of their software dire. They did not even have copy and paste for years on IOS. What is common across all Apple markets is getting customers to pay over the top and what some have called a "grab your ankles" aspect.

    For me it is about business, it is foolish to ignore a market that you can benefit from, whether it be the low end or a customer who was loyal and paid over the odds for an Apple iPhone.

    It's easy to be an armchair pundit on how companies should be run but at the end of they day we have no clue what will happen in the future to any of these companies and whats best for them.

    Currently Apple is doing better than any company in the world in terms of profits and whether that's down to excellent hardware, software or that anyone who buys apple products is a fanboy who knows.

    I have bought apple products since 2010 and always been pleased with the quality of their products and customer service. When things have gone wrong I have been able to pop into one of their stores and get things sorted quickly.

    When that day arrives that they no longer meet my standards then I will look at the competition. I think its great that android is out there offering something different and if price was an issue for me then I would certainly look at android at the drop of a hat. Right now though I have no reason to switch or to be worried that apple is going down the tubes ;)
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