UKCPM being shamed on ITV

Loadsofchildren123

It isn't a precedent, and estoppel is an age-old equitable remedy! But yes, it's useful for people to point to this as an example, although of course there is no court judgment or finding or anything in the public domain that can be produced as a concrete example.

Actually estoppel is an underused argument on this forum, thank you for reminding me about it!

mistercesq

Loadsofchildren123 wrote: »

It isn't a precedent, and estoppel is an age-old equitable remedy! But yes, it's useful for people to point to this as an example, although of course there is no court judgment or finding or anything in the public domain that can be produced as a concrete example.

Actually estoppel is an underused argument on this forum, thank you for reminding me about it!

Sadler V Leigh is an excellent example to use for the landowners right to cancel tickets.

The_Deep

I am not slating you, and I commend you for trying to put right the damage you have caused.


I am in exactly the same position as you. I own a flat within two minutes walk of the town centre. It was a magnet for cheapskates to park for free, we installed a rising bollard, but drivers delivering to a restaurant in the complex destroyed the side barrier and drove round it.

We did not employ a PPC though. I let a few tyres down and blocked in a few interlopers, illegal I know, but difficult to prove, especially against a stroppy landlord occupying the moral high ground. The problem we landowners have is that the law is on the side of the lawless, cf rent arrears and squatters.

mistercesq

The_Deep wrote: »

I am not slating you, I am in exactly the same position as you. I own a flat within two minutes walk of the town centre. It was a magnet for cheapskates to park for free, we installed a rising bollard, but drivers delivering to a restaurant in the complex destroyed the barrier.


We did not employ a PPC though. I let a few tyres down and blocked in interlopers, illegal I know, but difficult to prove, especially against a stroppy landlord occupying the moral high ground.




froE

We enter into these things in good faith as most landowners do..... It is a shame we get let down. I personally think over time the ANPR systems will die a death on retail sites. They are causing so much grief for landowners they just aren't worth it. I was pleased to hear ASDA gave Smart parking the boot. Interestingly Aldi are not renewing their Parking eye contracts in many circumstances and I have also seen some new Aldi stores with no enforcement.

If the industry act in a manner like CPM have towards us it will eventually purge itself.... but that is a way off.

safarmuk

Personally, I have a lot of respect for @mistercesq.

He had a parking issue, he tried to resolve that parking issue (unfortunately taking the wrong option), has had problems with the people he contracted with but is now going over and above to sort it out, being completely transparent about his experience and also coming on here to publicise the view of the landowner for others to benefit from.

@mistercesq.- I'll be in touch today like I mentioned above.

Mike172

Good to read this.

safarmuk

Mike172 - I see your signature. "Won 20 v UKCPM"

Have you had a lot of problems with UKCPM then? I'd be interested to hear about your experiences with them (on behalf of some friends). I understand they do a lot of residential car park "management", is that where you are experiencing their "management"?

Umkomaas

safarmuk wrote: »

Mike172 - I see your signature. "Won 20 v UKCPM"

Have you had a lot of problems with UKCPM then? I'd be interested to hear about your experiences with them (on behalf of some friends). I understand they do a lot of residential car park "management", is that where you are experiencing their "management"?

Mike is a bit of a legend. It was like watching the weekly football results. If he played football he'd have won the Premiership, FA Cup and the Champions League!

If I recall correctly, he used to report his wins in the POPLA Decisions sticky. Check out by clicking his user name and 'Find More Posts .....'.

safarmuk

If I recall correctly, he used to report his wins in the POPLA Decisions sticky. Check out by clicking his user name and 'Find More Posts .....'.

Will do, so this was all before UK CPM went on over to the IPC? Perhaps Mike172 was the cause of this ATA move!
I will do a search and see what I can find that might help.

mistercesq

safarmuk wrote: »

Personally, I have a lot of respect for @mistercesq.

He had a parking issue, he tried to resolve that parking issue (unfortunately taking the wrong option), has had problems with the people he contracted with but is now going over and above to sort it out, being completely transparent about his experience and also coming on here to publicise the view of the landowner for others to benefit from.

@mistercesq.- I'll be in touch today like I mentioned above.

Thanks. I will keep my eyes peeled for your email.

Mike172 wrote: »

Good to read this.

Mike you sound like a legend. No wonder UKCPM take less than 1 in every 1000 'offenders' to court if their success rate is that poor (BMPA figures).