the snap general election thread

CKhalvashi

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

I did not question your right to remain here.
I asked why you choose to live here.
Can you not find it in you to answer honestly and without rancour?


You have you see spoken in these forums (with pride, which I understand) of IIRC your Georgian background and indeed of your purported European dealings.
Yes, I'm sure there may be some anti-Georgian, even anti-eastern European or anti-EU "borderline racists" here in the UK.
I however am none of those.
Indeed my wife is not of British descent.

Now I bet you would love to see my contacts as evidence, since I have family and very close friends across Europe and beyond and I have lived in quite a few of those places too, but that's not going to happen.
Never though whilst I have lived in those countries would I have even dreamed of denigrating that country in any way because I consider that ill-mannered and inhospitable.
No matter how long I lived there.
And as I love my country of birth I returned, albeit eventually.


There are many EU countries you could choose, without considering even globally or your country of birth.
So I repeat:
I asked why you choose to live here.
Can you not find it in you to answer honestly and without rancour?


(If you say "I consider myself British" I will understand. We do after all have a vehemently pro-EU British contingent in these forums. )

Jock, I'm not saying youre racist, I'm not saying it will annoy you personally. I have, however, come across those that have taken exception to my background, which as you rightly say I'm proud of. I appreciate that my response could be interpreted as such and as a result want to make that clear.

I have remained here as long as I have for a mixture of reasons. I have family here, I have work here, and I have had (until now) no reason to change that. What will happen in the future I don't know, however that is how the situation is for the moment.

I also said that many consider me as good as British. In all honesty, I consider myself Georgian, however there is a large amount of doing things in 'British' ways in how I am, so I can understand where people come from with this.

I remember a lengthy debate with someone during the referendum. When I speak, I sound rather Northern, however what I did take exception to was the tone of things when I was asked if I have another passport, and the response given when the answer to that was yes. This is someone who had lived within a few miles of where they were born all of their life, and to be honest I don't consider that a healthy option for anyone, even if there is nothing wrong in principal with it.

I am a pro-EU British citizen, however I am against Georgia joining, as while I consider there are strong reasons for the UK to remain, I consider there are just as many reasons for Georgia not to.

GreatApe

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Er, not exactly as some of the responses following you post point out.
So no, as seen before we will not see eye to eye you and I.

A question?
(I am not trying to be argumentative here, just frank and honest okay? Try please to see the following in that manner?)

Why do you remain here instead of your homeland?
Why do all those born outside the UK choose to live here, very often on a permanent basis?

You see, I believe the answer to be that the UK is a better place.
Despite its faults and despite often derogatory comments regarding current affairs and future possibilities.

If it were not better than where you come from, you would not be here. (Nor would your family, before you say "but my parents". )

So, why remain here and not your homeland?

Once the kids start school its no longer an easy decision to make.

CKhalvashi

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

The only 'Company' I can find........

I have already explained that I do not live at that address, nor have I ever. I have also explained that I do not need to answer a bombardment of questions related to any dealings I may or may not have. I have refused to respond to you recently for a reason, and that reason is that, as explained to you elsewhere, your conduct is beginning to amount to stalking.

I would ask that (at a minimum) the town name is removed, as I do know who resides there and don't want them or their family put at risk as a result of your actions. You are in clear breach of the 'no personal info' rule, and shouldn't be asking people to look. I have already explained the relevant legislation to you which forbids you from doing this and if it needs to be explained again it will be, via the forum team, from my legal representatives.

For the avoidance of doubt, this site will not be held responsible for your actions because I don't feel that is fair on the owners, you will be however.

TrickyTree83

CKhalvashi wrote: »

I have already explained that I do not live at that address, nor have I ever. I have also explained that I do not need to answer a bombardment of questions related to any dealings I may or may not have. I have refused to respond to you recently for a reason, and that reason is that, as explained to you elsewhere, your conduct is beginning to amount to stalking.

I would ask that (at a minimum) the town name is removed, as I do know who resides there and don't want them or their family put at risk as a result of your actions. You are in clear breach of the 'no personal info' rule, and shouldn't be asking people to look. I have already explained the relevant legislation to you which forbids you from doing this and if it needs to be explained again it will be, via the forum team, from my legal representatives.

For the avoidance of doubt, this site will not be held responsible for your actions because I don't feel that is fair on the owners, you will be however.

Not this again...

How does Mortgagefreeman know what name to search for?

Did you tell him and they divulged it somehow?

Or is it publically visible, like companies house records also are?

If I told you my name in a post on here, you searched for a companies house record off the back of that information and posted the results, where is the breach of privacy? I freely told you everything you needed to find other information I'd also freely shared publically on the web.

There must be some lawyers reading these threads, where does he stand on this? I work in IT so I have some experience with data protection, it's my understanding that information you make public can be publically disseminated.

GreatApe

Whatever the legality of it its just not good form so my advise would be to cease and desist

Thrugelmir

Report the posts and move on.

bugslet

mystic_trev wrote: »

I'm a Pensioner and really can't see what all the fuss is about regarding the Tory manifesto. Pensioners are living longer lives, giving them more time to appreciate their later years.

My mother passed away last year leaving virtually no assets. Her home and savings had been used to make her comfortable in her final years in a lovely care home circa £1000 a week. This came from nearly £250,000 being from the sale of her home and the savings she and my father had worked hard for.

Of course I could have gone down the 'deprivation of assets' route, and dumped her in the cheapest place the Local authority could find. I know what these are like, I've seen a few! :eek:

No - my conscience is clear, and my inheritance well spent. It's time Pensioners faced up to the fact some of their assets should be used to help make them 'comfortable' They'll still be able to retain £100,000 to pass on to their children, which is far, far more than my mother had left

That's exactly my thinking.

When Mr Bugs went into a care home, I was only interested in how the staff talked and cared for the residents, not how more of 'my' inheritance it eroded.

As I expected to be widowed early ish (49), and have no family, I've always insured myself as regards health in case I'm no longer capable of looking after myself.

buglawton

mystic_trev wrote: »

I'm a Pensioner and really can't see what all the fuss is about regarding the Tory manifesto. Pensioners are living longer lives, giving them more time to appreciate their later years.

My mother passed away last year leaving virtually no assets. Her home and savings had been used to make her comfortable in her final years in a lovely care home circa £1000 a week. This came from nearly £250,000 being from the sale of her home and the savings she and my father had worked hard for.

Of course I could have gone down the 'deprivation of assets' route, and dumped her in the cheapest place the Local authority could find. I know what these are like, I've seen a few! :eek:

No - my conscience is clear, and my inheritance well spent. It's time Pensioners faced up to the fact some of their assets should be used to help make them 'comfortable' They'll still be able to retain £100,000 to pass on to their children, which is far, far more than my mother had left

Well put. But the new care policy was thought up in haste by an apparently tiny minority of MPs without any debate - presumably by 'team May''. The change hopes to ride in on the coat tails of Labour's current unpopularity and May's fortuitous Brexit power grab. On hearing her care policy 2 votes I know of instantly flew out of the window.

Meanwhile a different sensible policy had been in the offing for some years - a new contribution for care from those with assets but with an upper cap such as £70,000 per person. Even that number could have been played with. But no, May has chosen a weird option that adds to other weirdnesses such as on Grammar schools, school dinners and fox hunting.

edinburgher

mystic_trev wrote: »

No - my conscience is clear, and my inheritance well spent. It's time Pensioners faced up to the fact some of their assets should be used to help make them 'comfortable' They'll still be able to retain £100,000 to pass on to their children, which is far, far more than my mother had left

If only everybody thought like this, I think we would be able to have a more sensible debate about the fact that there are very real consequences to the fact that life expectancy is going up :T

I have distant relatives who ended up in a similar situation, £200k gone over the space of 4-5 years, it was just one of those things. True, the fact that the family now has to find the fees from their own pockets is hurting them, but they bear it because the elderly relative in question did everything they realistically could for their family during their economically productive life, like all good people with a bit to spare.

Conrad

I can see both sides of this, on the one hand it would compel more of us to take self-responsibility (we often take my FIL in when he's unwell) rather than automatically expecting the State to do these things for us, but on the other it's a bit galling that my old mate Gary who chose to get a council house and have no savings, will be taken care of no matter what at no cost to him. He's one of those types that has 4 or 5 holidays a year and spends everything he earns. Sometimes I think he's got it sussed.