the snap general election thread

GreatApe

Out shopping Just this minute I overhead a person angrily blame May and Phillip for this. Something along the lines of the Tories said to the councils its their business and wouldn't give the councils money for sprinklers etc etc.

This really is shameful
Even if you are a strong corbyn supporter working up the public like this is dangerous and stupid

System

GreatApe wrote: »

Even if you are a strong corbyn supporter working up the public like this is dangerous and stupid

That's what politics is. See Brexit and Trump.
Politics is stupid.

CKhalvashi

Rinoa wrote: »

Maybe you should have checked the link before posting.

I did. We all know however that what the Conservatives say and what they mean are completely different things.

I'm taking a bet he's 'reevaluated the situation' or some other slogan they're bound to come out with that effectively means 'I'm scared of losing my job'.

GreatApe wrote: »

Out shopping Just this minute I overhead a person angrily blame May and Phillip for this. Something along the lines of the Tories said to the councils its their business and wouldn't give the councils money for sprinklers etc etc.

This really is shameful
Even if you are a strong corbyn supporter working up the public like this is dangerous and stupid

Theresa May is not the victim here. What's shameful is pretending she is.

Moby

Rinoa wrote: »

Contrary to press reports and remainers on MSE, Hammond backs leaving single market and customs union.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/18/hammond-backs-brexit/

Maybe but everything is up for grabs now after the election Rinoa. Starmer said that we should stay in the customs union on the same programme.

Rinoa

Moby wrote: »

Maybe but everything is up for grabs now after the election Rinoa. Starmer said that we should stay in the customs union on the same programme.

Labour's Brexit position differs depending on who you interview.

Either way it's irrelevant as they won't be in power for at least another 5 years.

Moby

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/18/brexiters-vote-poverty-even-worse-than-austerity

The terrible thing about the prospect of Brexit is that our underlying economic situation is already bad enough, and the Brexit decision, if not reversed, is guaranteed to make things a lot worse. In economics there are time lags between announcements and their consequences, and under George Osborne the Treasury overdid its warnings about the timing of the referendum’s effects. Only now are people beginning to realise the consequences of the decision made last year by the world’s financial markets that Britain had, in effect, voted to become poorer and less secure. The devaluation constituted a reassessment of this country’s economic prospects.

Moby

Rinoa wrote: »

Labour's Brexit position differs depending on who you interview.

Either way it's irrelevant as they won't be in power for at least another 5 years.

What about the tory remainers though?

gfplux

hallmark wrote: »

claims of a cover-up about the real death toll went viral on social media on Friday.

Tension among residents was ramped up by suggestions that the Government had gagged the media in an attempt to manage public anger about the inferno.

The claims - all of them completely false - were spread by far-left supporters of Jeremy Corbyn including pop stars and socialist blogs.

They could now be examined by MPs as part of an ongoing parliamentary inquiry into “fake news”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/16/corbyn-supporters-spread-fake-news-grenfell-house-death-toll/

More proof of Corbyn & his supporters doing everything they can to stoke up the situation. What lovely people they are.

"It went on viral on social media on Friday"
You are perfectly correct, it was everywhere.

What you fail to understand was that this "forest fire burning all in its path" only needed the correct circumstances in which to ignite.
The fact that seven years of cuts and cuts and more cuts to NHS, Schools, Fire services, Police, Security Services and infrastructure have left a large part of society feeling left behind and angry was the dry tinder that the fire fed on.
It is not my job to open your eyes and your mind to this injustice. You will believe what you believe, you will un-feel what you un-feel.
If you have no recognition today that the well off have failed the less well off then nothing anyone can say will lift the shades from your eyes.

Rinoa

Moby wrote: »

What about the tory remainers though?

There aren't enough of them prepared to lose their seat. If there were we wouldn't still be leaving the single market.

There are also a number of Labour Brexiteers who could vote with the govt.

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

"It went on viral on social media on Friday"
You are perfectly correct, it was everywhere.

What you fail to understand was that this "forest fire burning all in its path" only needed the correct circumstances in which to ignite.
The fact that seven years of cuts and cuts and more cuts to NHS, Schools, Fire services, Police, Security Services and infrastructure have left a large part of society feeling left behind and angry was the dry tinder that the fire fed on.
It is not my job to open your eyes and your mind to this injustice. You will believe what you believe, you will un-feel what you un-feel.
If you have no recognition today that the well off have failed the less well off then nothing anyone can say will lift the shades from your eyes.

You're now condoning fake news deliberately released to stir up mob violence.