the snap general election thread

Ballard

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Labour never did do a deal with them though.

The Tories did.

We don't yet know the details but it's simply wrong to even consider deals with people like these. Their values are completely at odds with what is generally considered to be decent.

Enterprise_1701C

So now the labour party say they want a hard brexit?

Yet in their manifesto they say they want to set out fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the single market and the customs union.

So they are doing u-turns now.

hallmark

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

So now the labour party say they want a hard brexit?

Yet in their manifesto they say they want to set out fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the single market and the customs union.

So they are doing u-turns now.

Yep, but want to bet the BBC give this U-turn about 1/100th of the coverage May's U-Turn on social care did?

Mr_Costcutter

BobQ wrote: »

Do explain how you would define a Brexit plan when it depends on negotiation?

In order to negotiate there obviously has to be a general plan. Alongside which would be hypothetical scenarios and contingency plans to navigate unforeseen obstacles successfully. That being the case, I'm sure many people feel that the political parties are ill prepared for what lies ahead. This conclusion being reached because of the very vague responses given by politicians when questioned by the electorate as to what their plans actually are. Of course, they may be very well prepared. Leave that to others to decide

hallmark

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Labour never did do a deal with them though.

The Tories did.

Haha, they tried and FAILED!

You think that gives them credit lol? Labour tried to do a deal with the DUP & the DUP wouldn't have them :rotfl::rotfl:

cogito

hallmark wrote: »

Care to point out anything on https://www.order-order.com that's untrue? It's very straightforward to sue them for Libel if that was the case

It would be if they were based in the UK but they're not.

Joe_Horner

How can That Bloody Woman stand in front of a TV camera today and say, with a straight face that she's providing strength and stability going forward?

There's something worryingly pathological about being able to lie that blatantly.

hallmark

cogito wrote: »

It would be if they were based in the UK but they're not.

What have they posted that isn't true?

ThinkingOutLoud_2

kabayiri wrote: »

Look at the election map of the UK, and you will immediately see the problem this country faces.

Swathes of blue with concentrated zones of red, and a few other minor colours around.

I thought the BBC version of the map which based each constituency on a similar sized dot was interesting vs the usual geographically unbalanced view our rural vs urban constituency sizes creates.

Scroll down here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40176349 to the header "All UK constituencies shown at same size"

Not sure it solves any problems but...

ThinkingOutLoud_2

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Labour never did do a deal with them though.

The Tories did.

So let me get it straight - if you try to do a deal but fail - that is somehow morally much better than succeeding.

Isn't the objection being voiced about to trying to do a deal with these kind of people at all?

Or if you do a deal - the question might surely be more about did you accept to work together on anything repugnant or to agree to agree on those aspects that are not an issue?