the snap general election thread

michaels

The curious thing is although the Tories 'lost' they probably ended up with exactly the number votes they would have expected at the start of the campaign.

It is the Labour vote that was much higher than the tories or anyone else anticipated when the election was called. So the misjudgement was not on the vote for the tories but on labour in general and corbyn in particular appearing electable. And where the news has been over the last 12 months means that very few, including most mainstream labour supporters, would have forecast that.

Moby

ThinkingOutLoud wrote: »

So if May goes - do you think we could temp James Comey - he looked like a decent sort of chap with some morals, probity, subtlety when needed and a willingness to act!

I saw him give evidence. He spoke the truth! He was so convincing!

ThinkingOutLoud_2

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Loving the irony of the Tories having to look to the DUP for support.
Guess many around here (and no doubt all at the Sun / Mail / Express) will have conveniently short memories when it comes to their history of inflaming and extending the troubles and derailing peace initiatives.

There is irony - but I think both Sinn Fein and DUP as now are what came out of a peace process.
Neither are perfect - but when you see how Paisley and McGuinness reconciled and even got on - you could try to move on in their regard as well.
The past should not be forgotten - but we don't hold every German we meet as responsible for Hitler.
Otherwise, there would be no peace or GFA.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Not sure why anyone is celebrating. Nobody won, and the country quite definitely lost big time.

Has Britain ever been so polarised? There is hardly any centre ground (where elections are supposed to be won and lost) anymore. How can a PM unite such extremes?

Tiners

So how long before Carney prints off another few hundred billion and drops I.R's another notch... just to ''reassure the markets''?

Enterprise_1701C

What alarms me is the possibility of Corbyn forming a minority government? That to me says everything about what he is, he simply does not care what the people want.

ThinkingOutLoud_2

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Not sure why anyone is celebrating. Nobody won, and the country quite definitely lost big time.

Has Britain ever been so polarised?

I am not so sure we are actually that polarised vs the norm.
I think reading these boards and talking to people - a VERY large number felt uncomfortable voting for their usual or indeed anyone else. Those at the poles were happier, I suspect, but many felt they liked some - but also disliked other elements of each parties manifestos promises.

Many did not know who to vote for or found the decision very tough.


Perhaps as never before - both main parties failed to offer what vast swathes seem to want or so much that they didn't want or didn't care about.

e.g.
Tory care plan - many not happy!
Labour - renationalising - not sure many think this will save the world / think it is a huge costly distraction
Brexit - no-one actually said what they would really do - sensibly perhaps all are keeping their powder dry - a choice between talk tough or collaborate without any substance is not much of a choice

Zero_Gravitas

I see that Theresa May has said this morning that she has no intention of resigning. On current form, I give her until about lunchtime...

chucknorris

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

I see that Theresa May has said this morning that she has no intention of resigning. On current form, I give her until about lunchtime...

I accept anything could happen, but given that the Brexit negotiations start in 10 days, what logic are you basing this on? Surely in the short term the Tories are going to have to rally behind May, don't you think?

Arklight

kinger101 wrote: »

What does this mean for Brexit? I think parliament will reach an impasse on any negotiated deal.

Germans (Manfred Weber of the CSU) have just said that this is the end of the UK's hard Brexit, and has asked to meet Corbyn. A stinging snub for Theresa May.